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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 4 points 16 hours ago

Meta does a lot more than manage a Mastodon server. A single full-timer is likely all that is needed. Two to reduce burnout. Those costs are still high, but you shouldn't discredit the notion that eight full timers is an exaggeration. The top comments on the toot you link are the volunteers saying exactly that.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 16 hours ago

In practice, you'd need some redundancy because the admins will also need time off, vacation, get sick.

So, I am not disputing that 8 FTE is too much. What I want to make clear is this: there is not a single instance out there that is getting enough money in donations to pay even one admin, which is a clear indication that the model is not sustainable.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago

that the model is not sustainable.

18 months after the API debacle on Reddit, most of the instances are still around. If the model was not sustainable, wouldn't have all closed?

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 15 hours ago

Your question is as short-sighted as "If global warming is real, then why is it snowing in Southern Europe?"

No, a system that is not sustainable does not imply that all the ecosystem dies simultaneously. It just means that it relies on a continuous stream of idealistic people coming in, willing to help, only to collapse eventually later.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 2 hours ago

This logic would mean all nonprofits would fail. It's flawed.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 33 minutes ago

What do you mean? Even non-profits have income and pay salaries to the people working there.

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 9 hours ago

If admins need more money, they can ask for help to their communities.

Lemmy.zip seems to be doing okay: https://lemmy.zip/post/29448608?scrollToComments=true

Lemm.ee had a question about a donation link and never answered https://lemm.ee/post/49850162?scrollToComments=true

I know a few instance admins who runs their instances on hardware they would be using anyway.

Again, if some server admins need help with money, they should definitely ask, but I haven't seen such request ever.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 16 minutes ago

Again, if some server admins need help with money, they should definitely ask, but I haven’t seen such request ever.

Do you realize the issue with this reasoning? Here's a hint.

Survivorship Bias

You don't see admins "asking for money" to help because there are not that many admins that are willing to put up all the work that is required to run an instance upfront. Let's normalize the idea that admins and moderators should get paid for their work, and you can bet that there will be a lot more people showing up.

this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2025
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