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submitted 1 year ago by Penguincoder@beehaw.org to c/chat@beehaw.org

@alyaza@beehaw.org is MIA currently, but this weekly thread has been so awesome to see and keep going; so I am making what would be her typical post for this week. Alyaza; stay safe friend, I hope everything is okay.

Beeple, how's your mid week going so far??

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[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

Talked with a bunch of current and ex-coworkers about what a shit storm the workplace is. I don't know that I'll ever have enough motivation to leave.

[-] Penguincoder@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] LogLurker@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Damn, I've been struggling this week with whether I should leave my PhD program with a master's or keep toughing it out, and this really hit home for me.

[-] realChem@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

That's a real mood, yeah.

I just recently decided to stick with mine. I was having a lot of doubts: feeling like I wasn't making and progress, like I wouldn't actually be able to finish the projects I started, impostor syndrome shit, etc. I'm happy I decided to stick with it. I just cleared some big milestones and I'm in the middle of a nice long vacation now, and I'm feeling excited again about my work.

On the other side of things, I've got a friend who decided to leave his PhD program with a masters a few years ago. He's now heading up product development for a robotics startup, doing quite well for himself.

I don't think there're any wrong answers here. Do what will make you happiest. Maybe you just need a vacation, maybe you're ready to move on. And remember that education is never wasted: even if you decide not to finish out the PhD, you've still learned a lot and that's valuable with or without the piece of paper and title.

Best wishes, friend, whichever way you decide to go ♥

[-] bownage@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Hey, just want to start off by saying doing a PhD is the real accomplishment, not the title you get for finishing it.

That said, I relate!

I had to quit my PhD project after 1.5 years because of disagreements with my supervisors and yeah it hurt like hell. It was not my choice to quit but I was the one who decided to walk away from it in the end (as to avoid months of fighting my supervisors and struggling for 2.5 more years with mutual trust completely gone).

I made that decision in February and I've been feeling so much better since. I barely realised how deep of a hole I was in, or more like a vortex that keeps pulling you down. Don't get me wrong, I loved my project (automatic speech recognition to spot oral reading errors) and did not regret putting my heart and soul into it. What I'm saying is that a PhD is so intense it'll suck you in so deep you won't even notice how much it controls your mind until you step out of it.

I basically cried for 2 days from just sheer grief of having to let this project (and the dream of a PhD) go. But damn if it wasn't cathartic as hell.

I won't assume you're having the same experience I did but I can imagine you're currently afraid of career perspectives in case you quit. Let me tell you: there's a big world out there outside of academia and very few of them care if you have degrees upwards of a master's. Prospective employers will understand that you're intelligent regardless, and there's much more to gain developing soft/transferable skills.

Anyway I wish you the best, not trying to encourage you to quit but please realise there are other career paths and well and quitting a PhD does not equal failure or giving up! It can be a healthy choice.

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