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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

If it won't work for everyone then we can't ban driving for everyone.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Nobody is saying that cars should be completely banned. Cycling should be encouraged. Governments should sponsor buying bikes, build loads of GOOD cycling infrastructure (look at the Netherlands for examples for gods sake, cycling infrastructure in the Americas is a dangerous joke), make owning and using a car more expensive, make it easier to arrive to destinations by bike than by car. Invest heavily in public transportation.

The US could have had all that the Netherlands has now but it doesn't. It has huge and ugly cities that can only be used by car owners. If you don't own a car you're a second class citizen. You will mill out on good jobs. All that is insane to me. I never NEEDED a car. I can have one, but bikes are easier 100% of the time in sub 15 mile radius.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, minimum driving age should be 18 and even then require adult supervision.

Requiring an adult to be with them is functionally a ban for college students or young people trying to work.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I guess that's a point but not the one you think it is. I think it's telling of the abysmal state of public transportation and cycling infrastructure that a car is required to almost survive at this point, or at the least to be a functional member of society... It shouldn't be like that

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

It shouldn't be but it is so that has to be fixed before you argue to raise the minimum age for driving.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That's true enough

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