I think this is as strong as could reasonably be expected from Harris. It’s also brilliant politically. People who wouldn’t have voted for Biden because of Palestine may be willing to go with Harris.
In addition to age, this makes two of Biden’s biggest drawbacks crushed in one week. I like it.
I'm feeling... dare i say... enfranchised?
Yeah same…like there can’t possibly be so much good news at once. I’m not used to this feeling.
Or is it just franchised?
Do we get to open a chain of ourselves across the nation now?
Dems actually executed a plan shockingly well. Get the Republican anti-Biden propaganda machine to load up on specific issues, then swap Biden with someone that doesn’t have those issues. Now that the populace has been agitated on those issues, point out that Trump is the candidate who is old and fucks with Palestine. Classic bait and switch. Trump fell for the trap.
Kamala isn’t perfect, but she seems to be running on prosecuting and cleaning up the Trump crime spree. I can get behind that. A relief to see the dems pull something like this off. Acting like they were completely blowing it was just so believable. Biden’s debate performance really sold it.
I am at least 90% sure it wasn't an act. They actually were just blowing it. You have to recognize Biden is the head of the party currently, even still as Harris is taking over. He spent his entire life gaining power. He didn't want to give it up. He just had enough people around him tell him he wasn't going to keep power no matter what and was just going to fuck over the party that he eventually listened. This wasn't some genius play by the Democrats, rather just the Republicans fucking up in their strategy assuming Biden was the only possible opponent.
He spent his entire life gaining power. He didn’t want to give it up.
I've always been mystified by people that old wanting to cling to power. I'm a generation younger than Biden and I mainly just want a nap.
It makes me ponder how mentally ill I would have to be to be a rich 80-year old healthy enough to get around and do things with my grand kids, and not just have a job but dedicate my entire fucking life to it.
I’m not even sure the debate was a performance. I thought they really were completely blowing it, but just recovered incredibly well. I never even considered your idea of an unusually organized Democratic Party! Organization is not something they’re typically known for.
He answered the Roe V Wade question by talking about migrant crime, and handed Trump an easy response/diversion on his hardest question. Total flag maneuver. He threw the debate and hammed it up. Let Trump’s head get big and let the Republicans overcommit and overspend against the straw man before saying psyche.
A subversion of the “democratic” primary process, perhaps, but those have been a joke the past few cycles anyway. Not to mention “Superdelegates”. We need a constitutionally protected primarying and election process that isn’t run by the largest parties. I hope that it gets included in Kamala’s electoral reform package. Europe can hold snap elections, why can’t we? Europe has a sane system of parties that form alliances instead of an artificial binary choice. We need to upgrade our democracy to the 20th century advancements that we promoted elsewhere, and add further 21st century enhancements like ranked choice voting.
I am not saying it was orchestrated as much as navigated well.
Yooooooooo I am just so wrong this year and I'm all about it! Her AIPAC overseers won't be happy about that
Here's a clip of her speech...
VP: "What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months is devastating. The images of dead children and desperate hungry people fleeing for safety sometimes displaced for the second, third, or fourth time. We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies"
That passive voice is doing some heavy lifting.
This will greatly confuse the tankies.
Well its about fucking time. Reuters/ Ipsos results will be in next week.
Lets see if MI/ WI get back on the table and if MN is still a toss up. Its good strong rhetoric but the US has been on the wrong side of this issue for 9 months. One speech doesn't change that and there is damage to be fixed, but its always a first step. We froze Russian assets to fund the rebuilding of Ukraine. Should we freeze Israelli assets to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza? Lets hear some policy proposals.
Lets hear some policy proposals.
Here’s one simple trick that Harris can do on Day 1: Support the full inclusion of Palestine as a member at the United Nations.
(It’s possible that the UK or France might veto, but the US has generally been the obstacle to full recognition of Palestine at the UN.)
Once Palestine has international recognition as a state, it can start to benefit from international law, like the Geneva Convention.
Good to see. Maybe we can all regroup and get behind her now so that we can keep America from becoming a fascist nightmare.
Yep. I said my main objection was the genocide, and - shockingly - I'm actually not a Russian bot and my vote can be won by better policy positions.
If she supports ranked choice voting, I'll go door to door for her.
I listened to it. It was an OK speech, but it willfully ignored the agency of Israel in the destruction of the Palestinian people. She called Hamas terrorists, but what about Israel? What do you call an administration and a nation's army that's committing genocide? She gave no scoldings to Israel, which to me is weak sauce.
It would be electoral suicide if she did go all out.
It's a stupid tightrope but in America almost every politician has to walk it. It doesn't help the the tightrope is a milkshake duck.
The 269 - 144 House vote barring the State Department from even reporting Gaza death statistics should make it clear to anybody how powerful the Israel lobby is.
I think this was pretty much the best that could be expected from an american presidential candidate. Israel's position in the geopolitical balance of power makes it impossible for her to just outright denounce them. She's signalling that she's (hopefully) going to be less limp-wristed than Biden was on the issue, but the US's hands are largely tied when it comes to Israel - at least for as long as the forward outpost in the Middle East is as desirable as it still is to US interests.
Not just the strategic value, but also the fact that the Netanyahu camp and allies will cry "antisemitism" in the face of any significant criticism, which could be disastrous for an election campaign.
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