What the fuck?

I was assured by this server that it has no problem with socialists. This is worse than I expected it to be, I expected a half-hearted attempt to justify this action through means other than "they're socialists and hold socialist views".

To the three points here:

1. "Western propaganda" - Is capitalist propaganda. Of course socialists oppose it, we oppose capitalism.

2. "Nato" - An anti-nato position is held by literally every single socialist organisation in Europe. You will not find a socialist org with a pro-nato position. Ffs just look at DiEM25's position on this, it's probably the most well known cross-nation alliance of socialist groups and parties in europe including people like Yanis Varoufakis, Jeremy Corbyn and Zizek to name a few but that really doesn't do the size of the DiEM organising alliance justice. Even Noam Chomsky is anti-nato ffs. What the fuck are you doing acting like this is a fringe position not held by a huge number of people over here in Europe and at the forefront of leftist politics on the continent? Taking the position "you're not allowed to be anti-nato" is blatant american imperialism.

3. "It is in the Left’s interest for these organizations to be demolished." - Duh? What the fuck do the liberals running this instance think socialists believe exactly? When Marx calls for revolution do you think that we mean to continue the organisations that existed prior? No, we seek to abolish them and create new socialist organisations that serve the new socialist state we seek to create.

Absolutely mindblowing that this instance ever pretended it was going to play nicely with socialists. I'm disgusted.

Every single take above is also the take you will get from every single socialist community over on reddit. The anarchist communities will also even have an anti-nato position. Like jesus christ. I expected this post to be bad but I didn't expect it to be "Yeah fuck socialists, oh and fuck what anarchists believe too".

I'm flabbergasted that @ruud@lemmy.world just completely lied about not intending to block based on ideology, and it's extremely telling that Hexbear gets a pre-emptive defederation for this shit while literal actual nazis were a chore to get defederated.

Eugene V Debs. The best president the US never had.

o7

Their first rule is that you can’t criticize communism…

No it isn't. That's literaly not Hexbear's rules. The closest thing to that in Hexbear's rules would be this one:

We are a platform that welcomes anyone who wants to be here in good faith. With that said, we are also an intentionally leftist platform; conservative and reactionary ideologies will not be tolerated here.

A fascist runs defence for other fascists, no surprises here. He's been doing fascist dogwhistles for years and years, for example:

"Surf the kali yuga" has been a fascist dogwhistle for a very long time.

Maybe not enough by itself but when you combine it with everything else it's pretty obvious what he is.

No they're not lmao.

It's literally just "be nice to people when visiting other instances, don't behave like a dirtbag leftist unless you're actually on Hexbear". Because the culture of Hexbear is.... Dirtbag left. Making sure that the userbase doesn't behave that way off Hexbear is pretty important. Hexbear users are lovely most of the time but get vicious with each other and are prone to extremely hostile fighting over topics they disagree on, this would be a massive shock to most normal people off-Hexbear. They're just trying to mitigate that.

Hexbear has existed on lemmy for 3 years. It's just a socialist instance, originally it was /r/chapotraphouse on reddit until Spez banned it for its userbase saying things like "slaveowners should be killed" (because he is a prepper who has said he will own slaves after the collapse).

Chapotraphouse is a socialist podcast, it was also the #1 highest donated thing on Patreon for a good while. These days it's #2.

It's literally just anti-socialism. I have no other explanation for it.

This instance hasn't defederated from lemmygrad, which is by far much more of a hardline community when it comes to ideological position. Hexbear is softer than lemmygrad, its members are a mixture of ideologies of the left - democratic-socialists, anarchists and communists. It makes no sense to defederate from Hexbear before lemmygrad.

In terms of hatespeech and marginalised people it is by far the strongest and most iron-fisted instance on the lemmyverse. Having no-tolerance policy to it that goes well beyond that of anywhere else.

It's the only instance on lemmyverse that enforces visible pronouns, without cowardly forcing people to put it in hidden profile pages. If I recall correctly the last poll that was taken showed nearly 30% of its users are trans? Maybe 20%? I can't remember.

This is just a heatmap of English speakers.

Who gives a fuck? The car isn't decorated for you it's decorated for its owner. Same goes with how a person chooses to dress or decorate their body.

Ultimately just another form of "your body exists for my enjoyment".

I think you have to factor in the ideological motivation here. Many have tried to criticise the team for being socialists or weaponise it as a means of trying to get Lemmy not to take off, but I argue that it is because Lemmy is run by ideologically committed people that it exceeded your expectations.

Lemmy's goal is disrupting corporate control of what used to be communal spaces online. This is ideologically motivated by the socialist beliefs held by its development team.

Whether you agree with socialists or not politically, for a platform like Lemmy this motivation is very very powerful and plays a significant part.

The other side of this is that having known and occupied socialist spaces with Dessalines for close to a decade now he is one of the hardest working socialists online.

I think it would have been fair to have a rule saying “no surgical modifications”…

How are you intending to prove that that? Only the bad surgery makes itself obvious.