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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Many NSFW have nothing to do with porn. Sometimes are horror contents, some times are crude images, some times are just lazy people who don't know of the Spoiler tag. Can we have a quick and easy way to filter off all the (very funny but not alway wanted) Porn posts without locking out those other contents???

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago

I think horror or gore should go to NSFL rather than moving porn off NSFW. NSFW had traditionally meant porn where NSFL has meant gore, there just hasn't been a separate NSFL tag because that type of content has been discouraged and giving it it's own tag could be seen as legitimizing it.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

Horror doesn't mean gore and people use the nsfw tag for things other than porn, gore or horror too.

[-] V0lD@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Horror should still be nsfl

[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I totally agree with @Lojcs@lemm.ee (damn you scrolling comment setting)๐Ÿ‘†

@Lojcs@lemm.ee

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The tags are currently worked on, if you want to say something to make a change, write there.

https://github.com/Neshura87/Lemmy-RFC

Github issue that started the tags conversation. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/317

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

I don't think tags would be a solution as they wouldn't be standard threadiverse-wide. Also porn communities would want to mark their posts with specifying tags like every other community does instead of a generic porn tag.

What's needed is expansion of the nsfw mark into subcategories

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 19 points 1 year ago

there is proposal for three types of tags: NSFW, spoiler and generic. NSFW and spoiler will blur the images, and generic tags are for content categorization. NSFW and spoiler tags should have the same behavior on lemmy. kbin dev will want to make parity change for his feature.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I still don't think it'd be enough to leave nsfw tag creation to communities. Even if a porn community created multiple tags under nsfw to classify their posts that would do nothing to help people block all porn on the platform. Porn, gore etc need to be their own tag types under the general nsfw type.

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 5 points 1 year ago

I would recommend you read the request for comment made by Neshura87, there he explained that it won't work like that. nsfw and spoiler tags are embedded into lemmy software.

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[-] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

We need parent and child tags. If we can create a parent 'porn' tag and a child 'hentai' tag nested, then people can block as wide or as narrow as they want.

[-] NicoCharrua@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I think copying Mastodon would be the best for this. You can mark the post as sensitive (nsfw), which blurs the images. You can also add a content warning that can be used for anything (nsfw, nsfl, spoilers, etc).

And then use tags separately for categorizing posts.

[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Thank you I'll check the links ๐Ÿ‘

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 44 points 1 year ago

Just do what I do and fill your blocklist with over 500 (and growimg) porn communities...

/s

[-] Brtrnd@feddit.nl 19 points 1 year ago

Can you give me the list so I know what communities to avoid?

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[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Done๐Ÿ‘

[-] dashydash@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the apps allow blocking of instances, I use Sync For Lemmy and I blocked pornlemmy and lemmynsfw and I don't see porn anymore for the most part, there are still some stray nsfw communities on other instances but I rarely see any of their content

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[-] Crisps@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

It would be easier to allow you to fully block the 2 instances it comes from.

[-] GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

For real, if I could block lemmynsfw that would remove 90% of the porn from my feed.

I swear I blocked every community on there but more keep showing upโ€ฆ

[-] gavi@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago

100% there needs to be a way to block lemmynsfw, I say this even as an admin for it!

[-] GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ha, great reply

Nothing against your instance, just wish I could hide it from my โ€œallโ€ feed without hiding all NSFW content.

[-] gavi@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

Agreed. There needs to also have more granular federation options (blocking images, forcing NSFW on another instances posts, silence them in c/all, etc etc)

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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What about the content on lemmy.world? A few communities were set up on this instance as well.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

By comparison, There's far fewer porn communities outside those main instances.

If we could block an entire instance, my block list would drop from over 500 communities to those two instances + like 10 other individual communities.

Plus maybe I could go more than 20min without adding to it...

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[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

can we just block instances at the user account level?

[-] Owljfien@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 year ago

I think i saw there is a merge request for this up on git, which hopefully means it's not far away

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[-] silicon_reverie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Many of the Android apps let you filter instances, as well as individual communities or users. Most instances don't host porn because of the legal headache, so blocking the only two that specialize in it should (mostly) do the trick: lemmynsfw and pornlemmy. On Sync for Lemmy, tap the overflow button on an offending post > filter > filter instance

[-] vikingtons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get that, but I don't feel good about that solution. You're sort of beholden to that specific client.

Given new lemmy is as a platform, I don't want to feel locked in yet (though I understand instance block lists might be cross compatible between all client apps supporting the feature).

Another counter argument is that an instance block list should be relatively short. Keeping this list in a separate location and manually re-applying will probably not take up a lot of time.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I originally left it unchecked because I'm fine with non-porn NSFW stuff, but the porn was so overwhelming I just had to block it all.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 year ago

People keep saying this and I keep not seeing very many salacious pics. I wonder why.

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[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

Nsfl = inury / death

Nsfw = curse words, a boob, etc

Porn tag for porn and art with nude chicks

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[-] jumbodumbo@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

Alternatively a filter for "hentai" and a more general "anime" filter would also be nice.

[-] Neato@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

How would the filters apply to those communities where it's lewd anime but still technically clothed? I've had to block several communities for being what is as close to hentai as you can get.

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[-] BCat70@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Or a NUDE tag to cover all of the uncovered.

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can we have the exact opposite?

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[-] Swim@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

While we're at it let's add that for different languages

[-] nick@campfyre.nickwebster.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think ActivityPub supports that. There's just the "sensitive" flag (which Mastodon shows as a content warning and lemmy shows as NSFW). I think you'd have to do something outside of the specification.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 12 points 1 year ago

I don't think ActivityPub supports that.

Which only means that you have to add it to activitypub first.

[-] gavi@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

I think overall a good way would be to add content warnings like other fediverse software and making it so that you can set specific communities to have specific content warnings to be applied.

[-] CoughingwithCoffee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Wait, the Fediverse has porn? Uh, asking for a friend.

[-] ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Apparently. According to what someone says anyway ๐Ÿ˜‡

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