Bad-faith coverage of trans issues — who does it serve? (objectivejournalism.org)

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[-] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 year ago

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The trans community are often treated as activists pushing an agenda when we tell our stories, not as human beings sharing the truth in good faith.

I had not really thought of it that way before, but yes, that is exactly how it feels. Even those who call themselves Allies seem to brush off what I have got to say. I’m not some militant activist. Don’t get me wrong—I fight for our rights where I can. However, it seems that my perspective and fears are brushed off by pretty much everyone around me. I cannot presume to know what goes on in others’ minds, I can only speak to how things appear as well as to my personal experiences. It sucks feeling like no one is really listening.

[+] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago

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[-] darq@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

100%. It really does wear one down, make one bitter and distrustful after a while. Even of people one otherwise would get along great with.

[+] raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

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[-] darq@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Look I get by fine. I have just learned to massively lower my expectations of people. I accept that many of my friends will still help me as a human, even if push came to shove, they'd let me die as a queer person rather than stepping up.

People aren’t bad people for not being as cognizant all the time of everything that effects groups they’re not part of

Let me be clear though, I'm not upset by ignorance. I mean I am but that's not what I am talking about here. I'm upset by disbelief and denial of experiences. I get along with people and my friends usually consider me decently knowledgeable and trustworthy about the things I'm interested in.

But if I talk about trans issues? They cannot believe me. I must be wrong. And if they are things I personally experience? Well I must just have imagined that or I must be exaggerating or I must be misunderstanding something. I cannot have experienced the things I say I have. And if I say something hurts me, I can get told by friends that actually no, it doesn't hurt me, they know better.

I know a lot of people would just say "get better friends" and I do and I have. But honestly, most cis or straight people I meet do this to some extent or another. Queer experiences threaten their worldview, trans experiences threaten a cis worldview. So those experiences simply can not be believed without mitigation.

[-] sparklepower@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

can relate. it's like they're saying, "you're wrong, you just don't know it yet" - it feels super condescending and patronizing, especially when it comes from loved ones.

there is hope though. years ago, if i brought up anything to do with gender identity or sexual orientation, my family would be all like, nonono we don't wanna hear about what you do and who you do it with (i'm ace LOL). over the years, they started to see that my queerness doesn't change who i am (they also thought "queer" was a slur, until i used it to describe myself). also when i spend time with friends, they see and experience the little bits of prejudice that i face day-to-day. the more time they spend with me, the harder it becomes to ignore/refuse. there's been a few memorable moments with friends, when they ask me quietly, "did that just happen? are you okay?" and that's when i know they understand what i've been saying all this time.

[-] Gaywallet@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

when they ask me quietly, “did that just happen? are you okay?” and that’s when i know they understand what i’ve been saying all this time.

I think this right here is what's so surprising about being trans in the US. One trans person, even in a group with non-trans people, will get slurs yelled at them on the street and harassed in the presence of others.

For many minority folks, being with others erases that part of your identity from that kind of attention. If you're walking by yourself and a woman, you're way more likely to get cat called than in a group that also has men. If you're black, you probably won't get the n word if you're walking with a group of white people.

I've often wondered just what it is about being trans that makes people feel like open criticism and slurs are okay, no matter who is around. Is it that socially we haven't decided that it's not okay to yell slurs at trans people yet, and it's purely a matter of how new of a concept it is to most people? Is it because of the incessant attacks by the right and how we tolerate open discussions questioning their humanity? I'm not sure but it's certainly sitting in a weird place right now, and I wish people would grow up and see fellow humans as humans first, before looking at their identities.

[-] sparklepower@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's relative to the unfortunately common belief that trans ppl are constantly rubbing their existences in our faces. Why must we accept neo-pronouns? Why do they expect me to change my worldview to accept their existence?

I feel that there's a somewhat threatening social expectation that a trans person should conform to existing gender norms and expectations. I've had many discussions with friends about "passing". In certain parts of the world, passing is necessary for survival. They're not doing it because they want to, but because they have to.

A non-binary friend recently told me that they were described by friends as a "social chameleon", and eventually it became something that they resented about themselves. They ended up distancing themselves from those friends so that they could rediscover their sense of social identity.

With that said, I think the brazen public displays of aggression that we see towards trans folk come from people who believe that the general public agree with their views. I believe that if we speak up and call that shit out when we see it, they will begin to realize that actually no, not everyone agrees with them. Unfortunately I think most people are scared to speak up about that, and it's easier to just turn a blind eye to it.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

This is the same way Gay Rights and HIV/AIDS activism was treated in the 80s 90s and 00s. It’s the same playbook being recycled.

[-] darq@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Even those who call themselves Allies seem to brush off what I have got to say.

This absolutely does my head in. It upset me way more than the openly hateful lot does.

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Frankly, I think it’s being pushed by two forces, people who are legitimately transphobic and people who want something else to have arguments about rather than issues that actually affect them.

Like, say you realize that the corporate consolidation is driving the economy off a cliff, and your see how pissed off people are about it bbbutttttt you benefit from it, rather than just keep quiet and wait for people to realize the real cause of their issues, find something else to get people arguing about. Maybe even get a few companies to show how “progressive” they are by having them “speak to trans issues”. Now rather than discussing wether or not the consolidation is good or should be allowed, people are ether attacking or defending the latest marketing campaign.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Frankly, I think it’s being pushed by two forces, people who are legitimately transphobic and people who want something else to have arguments about rather than issues that actually affect them.

It's the same picture...