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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't be surprised if Alphabet has used data from all these sources all the time.

That's actually the reason I don't use gmail except for registering Android, or use google calender, or google search except occasionally. I have my youtube account separate from my Android, and I don't allow any cloud services, like photo or any other storage or sync services.

The power Google can gain from using these things in combination is huge, just like Facebook influenced the 2016 US presidential election, Google/Alphabet could use this for both political and financial gains to an enormous degree, that would have been completely unheard of prior to Internet becoming widely used.

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[-] LostDeer@infosec.pub 43 points 1 year ago

Can't wait for bard to join the google graveyard with stadia once the ai fad passes!

[-] dukk@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

If it passes.

I hope it passes.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's already starting to, the AI groups of devs basically showed off an alpha to their CEOs, then those CEOs thought it's game changing....while the devs were like "no it's an alpha/pre-alpha and is really dumb"...but the CEOs rolled with it and are now finding how bad it is...so it's been getting slowly dropped. It's %100 a fad and has limited applications. It's really cool tech and I have used it, but it's not something that's going to replace many people.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

It's %100 a fad and has limited applications. It's really cool tech and I have used it, but it's not something that's going to replace many people.

You are you trying to convince? Lol the more I hear this the more it seems like projection. You say it to comfort yourself because you're not certain that it will but you want it to be true.

The more it gets integrated into the ecosystems that enterprise corporations use the more it will replace people. Our Data Automation engineers are currently training an in house model on company data so you can ask if for anything from the accounting spreadsheets to when the next holiday is (accounting for ACLs of course, can have accounts receivable getting access to accounts payable.)

If you genuinely think it's a fad you most likely don't work in an industry where it has an application or use-case, yet.

I don't know where you're getting this information that it's dying out because that's just objectively untrue. Microsoft is probably pricing out AI model Saas E5 licensing as we speak, Bing chat just got an upgrade with Enterprise Tenants recently that supposedly safeguards your company data, this shit is not going anywhere no matter what lies you're telling yourself. It's not replacing human oversight anytime soon but it absolutely will reduce the amount of humans behind screens at virtually every company in the next decade.

Meanwhile new jobs will open up in AI specific integration as it inevitably becomes too much for Cloud and Data engineers to handle.

"siLlY gOoGle, iTs tHe nEXt cRyPtO" just shows how little you know about it. Probably because you work in a completely unrelated industry and get your information from websites that tell you what you want to hear. Meanwhile your attempt at using AI probably amounts to breaking it's moral safety locks and then running out of ideas. If you worked in a field that AI is being used for, and know enough to lean on its ability to work through large data sets quickly while doing simple QA work to verify its information (which takes vastly less time than searching through all the data yourself) I guarantee you that you'd find it incredibly useful.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Lol no I literally work in this field. The shit that's being presented now is a fad. We've been doing ML for over a decade now, and all the cool little things you're talking about are not new. It's not even brand new within the last 5ish years. You're acting like this is some brand new industry because chatgpt is the new big thing. It's not it's a product of the industry that's been at this for a long time. All automation removes jobs and it's cool, but don't sit there and tell me it's going to replace jobs that require thought that you cannot build into a DB. If it doesn't have the parameters to do the job it's not capable of doing the job.

Also I thought your Google crypto quip is great...

It's not replacing human oversight anytime soon but it absolutely will reduce the amount of humans behind screens at virtually every company in the next decade.

Lol this is how all automation and any tech works...this shits been happening for centuries... it's not new.

[-] mephiska@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I mean who doesn't like a search engine that very convincingly and assertively lies to you? They all come off as very authoritative while also being so very wrong more often than not.

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[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Man I can’t wait to get 100% out of gmail.

[-] ciferecaNinjo@fedia.io 10 points 1 year ago

Just curious- what exactly do you mean by that? Do you mean abandoning/trashing your google account, or do you mean also refusing to send email to gmail recipients?

Personally I’ve gone all the way. Ditching the Google acct was just the 1st step (which implies also ditching Google Playstore). Then I quit sending email to gmail & outlook recipients. Then I went further and do an MX lookup on all email addresses to verify whether a vanity address like bob@lastname.com resolves to google. This has made #email mostly dead to me.

[-] Z4rK@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I won’t stop sending to Google recipients. I have moved my email to Proton, but because of lacking search functionality there I have not yet migrated historic emails.

I’ve stopped using other Google services and deleted data except for Maps and YouTube. Maps I can probably get rid of. YouTube I’ll keep but may be able to use a more fake account.

[-] clark@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I was stuck with a Google account because I still wanted to view Youtube, but then I found alternatives like Piped and Freetube that let you import your subscriptions. Maybe that’s an option, if you’re interested.

[-] blabber6285@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

I'm wondering what was the email usage like in the first place if you can just choose to stop sending to most people.

But to be honest, I've only sent handful of emails from my personal account within the same number of years.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you choose to use the Workspace extensions, your content from Gmail, Docs, and Drive is not seen by human reviewers, used by Bard to show you ads, or used to train the Bard model.

Yeah... really comforting, Google. Really comforting.

🤷‍♂️ you weren't going to pay for it, gotta pay for compute somehow.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago
[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

These companies just push hard for people to leave them.

[-] kureta@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

openai's chat gpt, and microsoft's bing flavor of chat gpt both have android apps. google's bard does not. that is all...

[-] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Switched to outlook but soon found out that some of your emails arent even received. That occured when I was trying to sign up to this lemmy instance. Luckily the admin was a very friendly person who understood the situation and manually approved my signup.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Outlook is just choosing another big tech. Why not something like protonmail or tutanota?

[-] PastorHaggis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to switch over to Proton. I haven't paid for it yet but my plan is to start paying and potentially grab usernames on other sites so I can have a consistent email across any site I decide to use.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Proton unlimited was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Very nice vpn service that works even on arch Linux on school wifi (making sure to switch to tcp protocol), e2ee mail that I use to send confidential medical records to drs, included simplelogin premium (currently over 400+ aliases), excellent and knowledgeable customer support, and so much more. I just really love this company and their role in the FOSS, privacy, security space.

[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

I mean, if Bard can access those things, that means Google already had access in the first place. I also don't mind if that means I get to enjoy a better service overall.

The things I don't want Google to know about I have separate anyways

[-] ares35@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

narrator: 'google knows about those things, too.'

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I know people who have their passwords on a google doc or email passwords. I foresee a lot of accounts getting hacked once people can crack the right prompts for the LLM.

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, at this point I find very difficult to believe that people willingly putting their entire life in free Google accounts don't know that they're basically ads meat anyway. The outrage makes no sense.

[-] Bluesheep@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Without going to whole hog and hosting my own infrastructure, what are some good alternatives?

[-] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

proton suite. i'm using it since 2016 and never looked back.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Mailbox, posteo, zoho, skiff...

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only reason I ever use my gmail is because they are tied to my phone and some of the games on my phone, otherwise I wouldn't be using them.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I deleted google and only have game accounts email only from simplelogin aliases. Maybe you'll eventually realize google is a shit company and leave that environment as well.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

As much as I don't like gøøgl€, on the phone front, it's the lesser of the two evils I can choose from currently. I probably won't be able to outright buy my next phone before getting service and slap on a custom ROM, so I'd rather deal with the devil I know over appl€.

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[-] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Queue the I'm in danger meme

[-] brisvag@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago
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