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submitted 1 year ago by fer0n@lemm.ee to c/technology@beehaw.org

TL;DR: The NFT market has drastically declined since its peak in 2021, with most NFT collections having no value. There's an oversupply of NFTs, leading to a buyer's market, and environmental concerns due to energy consumption. Top NFTs also struggle to maintain value, and the future of NFTs depends on utility and genuine value rather than speculation.

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[-] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 79 points 1 year ago

I hate the crypto market so much, but ESPECIALLY nfts.

Nfts were blatantly a scam. It 2as a very in your face scam, it was giving money to someone else for literally nothing. It was obvious time from day 1 that it was just an avenue for rich people to launder money and have it look legit.

But the media fell for the new trend hook, line, and sinker. Instead of telling people it was a scam from day 1, which it *obviously was," the major news networks (at least here in the US) talked about nfts as if it was a legit new type of cool investment. They stopped short of telling people to buy them so that they couldn't get sued, but they hyped the fuck out of NFTs. CONSTANTLY. Any time I listened to any cable news for more than 30 minutes around mid 2021, I heard NFTs get mentioned at least once, and very rarely was that mention skeptical or a warning.

And now all the people who bought into the hype are left holding the bag, as always, a d the rich people who scammed them get to keep all the money, as always, and the media is facing no repercussions for their contribution to the scam, as always. It's so frustrating to watch

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 37 points 1 year ago

I can assure you if you were watching a programme that was hyping nfts, you weren't watching "news"

WTF is up with your media over there?!?

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

WTF is up with your media over there?!?

Once again, so many things currently wrong with the USA can be traced back to the Regan administration.

The fairness doctrine of the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC), introduced in 1949, was a policy that required the holders of broadcast licenses both to present controversial issues of public importance and to do so in a manner that fairly reflected differing viewpoints.[1]

In 1987, the FCC abolished the fairness doctrine

The demise of this FCC rule has been cited as a contributing factor in the rising level of party polarization in the United States

After that news programs had no responsibility to be truthful in any real sense.

[-] gaael@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Thanks for this educational post, TIL I learned something interesting (and sad/infuriating).

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Cheers.

I wasn't joking when I wrote this:

so many things currently wrong with the USA can be traced back to the Regan administration.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

What, like your education system is so bad you can't even spell the names of your presidents? 😂

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am not american...

It is possible to know the history of another country but get something wrong occasionally.

Correcting spelling mistakes is the lowest rung of internet comments...

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

It's a joke on the mess that Reagan made of the education system, chill out

[-] tburkhol@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah. https://www.educationnext.org/remembering-nation-risk-reflections-politics-policy/

Abolish the Department of Education. School choice vouchers. Standardized testing. All these memes started with Reagan. Not Regan, his Secretary of Treasury, but a lot of people confused Ronald Reagan and Donald Regan, even at the time.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, that was just a spelling mistake from a non-american, I have never heard of Donald Regan (and don't know if that is a joke or not)

[-] tburkhol@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

No sweat, friend. I was just using the opportunity to extend the "It's all Reagan's fault" train. And Donald Regan was a real guy appointed by Ronald Reagan. They didn't have the diversity of names we do now, so a lot of them repeated, rhymed, or required a middle initial to differentiate. Like all the George Bushes - GWB, GPB, GHWB...

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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 6 points 1 year ago

In the wise words of Killer Mike: “I’m glad Reagan dead”

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Same.

It's a shame his Alzheimers didn't hit in 1981.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

From some reports I have read about his time in the white house it had definitely started before he left office.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

That's probably likely, but I mean like... full-on, undeniable, this guy can't run the country Alzheimer's.

Not that it would have mattered a ton. Bush was just as corrupt, but who knows? All we know in retrospect is that Reagan was an absolute atrocity for the working class in this country.

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[-] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Can't speak for nfts, but mainstream morning news shows absolutely shilled for the metaverse. It was embarrassing. Cringe, even.

https://www.today.com/video/what-is-the-metaverse-get-a-look-at-the-internet-s-next-big-frontier-145223237790

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

They shilled for NFT's too.

I couldn't get over how silly it sounded to spend actual money for what amounted to a screenshot.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

You mean the guy who owns of hundreds of local, national, and international publishing outlets around the world, including in the UK (The Sun and The Times), in Australia (The Daily Telegraph, Herald Sun, and The Australian), in the US (The Wall Street Journal and the New York Post), book publisher HarperCollins, and the television broadcasting channels Sky News Australia and Fox News (through the Fox Corporation). He was also the owner of Sky (until 2018), 21st Century Fox (until 2019), and the now-defunct News of the World?

We shouldn’t of let him in, but we didn’t create him.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

We shouldn't have, never of

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

NFT technology will not go away. It will be in a different form, not trading cards with shitty jpegs attached

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

NFT technology will not go away.

NFT's are nothing more than digital receipts. They do not stop copying what ever the receipt points to and they are nothing special at all.

If the web address your NFT points to disappears due to the site shutting down. Your NFT is beyond worthless.

From the Economist.

Quote:

To "own" one means having your ownership recorded on a digital ledger—nothing more.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

Digital receipts are easy to do without mining crypto. Just send an email. Use a postgres database. There's literally nothing offered by nfts that can't be done less stupidly another way.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Use a postgres database.

Is that like the 4 days of comments Beehaw lost the other day, or like when Amazon decided that people who bought certain ebook, had no longer bought it?

There's literally nothing offered by nfts that can't be done less stupidly another way

As in, going through data recovery, or through courts? Is that really smarter than having a proof of ownership 24/7 in perpetuity, that you can even sell to others?

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

They do not stop copying what ever the receipt points to

They just stop the seller from claiming you no longer have the right to a copy.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Has an NFT as proof of ownership ever actually been tested in a court of law?

Until it does, the claims the NFT shills make mean zero.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think you understand: a DRM-locked digital content doesn't need, or care about, "a court of law" to work or not with a given key.

Instead of listening to the shills of GIF NFTs, centralized app/media shops, or centralized governments, try to think about what the technology actually means.

[-] lloram239@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not even that. The NFT gives you ownership of the NFT itself and nothing more. It doesn't give you ownership or copyright over whatever the NFT is pointing to. Furthermore the links in the NFT are public and everybody can access them, the NFT does not work as access token to the content.

You could build a system where the NFT acts as access token and where every NFT comes with a license agree that say "Whoever owns this NFT has copyright over work XY", but nobody has done that yet or at least not at scale.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You’re right. It will evolve into a different even more stupid scam on the blockchain. And people will fall for it again.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 3 points 1 year ago

Some crypto has legit use, but a lot of it is scams for sure.

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 37 points 1 year ago

It was tulips all along, but stupider.

Your day is coming soon, cryptocurrency.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago

The difference is that crypto is used to buy things. There's plenty of stuff I can only buy via crypto.

[-] yogo@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago
[-] Namstel@lemmy.one 24 points 1 year ago
[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago

Drugs and private services.

[-] yogo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You can pay for those in cash and prepaid credit cards

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Prepaid cc have a know your customer policy most of the time and if I'm buying online they don't accept cash. Conceptually I like crypto and I'm happy to support it.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Tulip mania speculated on the unknown future outcome of a tulip bulb.

How are NFTs anything like that? You can clearly see (and copy) the content of NFTs, it's literally the opposite of tulips.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Some crypto is actually useful. Most is not.

[-] storksforlegs@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At least with other speculative crashes like say beanie babies you were left with a cute toy.

[-] edm00se@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

No kidding. Hey I've got a great idea for a new marketplace, BeaNFT. You can waste your money but get an upcycled Beanie Baby in the process.

[-] Hector_McG@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago

It’s not evolution, it’s an extinction event.

[-] fer0n@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Haha one would hope so. I’m not buying any of their "this is the future of NFTs" aspects either. I feel like the only thing that could work are things like in game cosmetics, but that’s controlled by one company and in an controlled environment so why would you need to have an NFT for that.

[-] GunnarRunnar@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Tying NFT token to a physical object like a painting and keeping a database of who owns what seems potentially interesting. But why would you need it to be NFT based either, I don't know.

[-] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Tying NFTs to a physical object is quite pointless. It can make no guarantees that it’s the only NFT for that physical object, or if the physical object even exists.

[-] GunnarRunnar@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Well it's the same as with any document, digital or physical, that shows ownership. Obviously it being NFT wouldn't make it magically legit, same as with anything else.

But like I said I don't really see a point of that kind database being blockchain/NFT based anyway.

[-] paper_clip@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago
[-] fer0n@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Haha nice one!

[-] fer0n@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Shocking, I know.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I wonder what my pets.com and webvan shares are worth these days...

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