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[-] ech@lemm.ee 138 points 1 year ago

5.0.1: Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other groups of people. Every one of our users has a right to browse and interact with the website and all of its contents free of treatment such as harassment, bullying, violation of privacy or threats of violence.

[-] MrMusAddict@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

In my opinion this is actually better than the CoC. The only thing "missing" is the definition of which qualities you shouldn't discriminate against. But that's now generalized into "groups of people".

I still can't discriminate against people based on any qualification. Hell, I technically can't discriminate against "pineapple on pizza eaters".

[-] DharmaCurious@startrek.website 48 points 1 year ago

Good. Because it's fucking delicious and I don't care what the internet says. We all loved it in the 90s, and nothing has changed. It's still delicious, we just do less coke now.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Obligatory pizza related chime in. You fuck with jalapenos on that sexy pineapple pizza?

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You heretic! I want you to know that if I could discriminate against you for putting pineapple on pizza, I absolutely would!

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[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 5 points 1 year ago

What about people who don't eat pizza crust?

[-] Shazbot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They are wonderful people. Especially when they tear off the crust so I can eat it.

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[-] Xylinna@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I love some pineapple pizza!

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Some day we will eradicate your kind

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

As it is worded you can't discriminate against nazis and racists either.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

You can discriminate all you want, you just can't harass, bully, violate privacy or threaten violence.

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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I think you can't read it too literally. Otherwise you also can't discriminate against "people who wrote their comment later" and so you can never stop reading the comments for fear of discriminating between "early comment writers" and "late comment writers".

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Literal is the only way these things are supposed to be read.

They could easily fix it by saying "groups (except for those that promote discrimination and/or hate such as nazis and racists)"

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[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

By my reading of it, you can still discriminate against pineapple pizza eaters, or any other group whatsoever, you just can't harass, bully, violate their privacy or threaten them with violence. Which is fine by me, if someone wants to make a community only for ginger haired people and ban anyone they think isn't naturally ginger, that's their perogative.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That was my takeaway, too, and I think it's positive. The nice thing is, if it turns out that the policy fosters behavior that's bad for the broader community, they can change it.

[-] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Of course we would, and that's also exactly why we invited users to discuss and provide feedback while launching it. It is a living document, and we hope to update and improve it periodically and consistently.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Some people have given you guys a lot of flack, but I really think you're making a thoughtful, good faith effort to do things right, and I think you're doing well. There have been a couple things that I thought were the wrong decision, but (1) they've been relatively minor, and (2) they've been reasonable even if I might have chosen differently. I very much appreciate the thought that goes into running this place.

[-] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I appreciate your sincere response, and I can assure you the rest of our team will too. Differences in decisions may naturally occur, of course, but I think being able to reason things is what matters in the end. Here's wishing you a great one.

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[-] lemann@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I like my pineapple pizzas with a bbq base 🤪 don't come after me 😂

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[-] boatswain@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago

Need some context here: is this what we removed, something that's already somewhere else, a proposed replacement, or something else?

[-] stankmut@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That paragraph is part of the new terms and conditions document they released.

[-] Geert@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OP completely ignoring 5.0.1

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 year ago

Well they banned me for saying I don't like ads and called it harassment. They have no idea what they are doing and are not fit to be admins of anything.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 6 points 1 year ago

Unless you provide the exact text you were banned for, I'll be having my doubts.

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://lemmy.world/comment/3536316

https://lemmy.world/comment/3535459

https://lemmy.world/comment/3531009

Another kind of funny thing is that this is on Lemmy.ml. "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts."

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Was this during the sync thing?

To be honest as a mod or admin I would personally get sick of reading the same things over and over again, with sync fans attacking staunch FOSSers and staunch FOSSers attacking sync fans. It only served to get both sides upset for literally no reason, and fracture the community even more.

Their inboxes would have also likely been flooded out to death during that time with both sides reporting each other over petty remarks

Doesn't make it right, however I can see why it happened. Probably another reason behind the "dont report something unless its against the terms" rule.

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[-] InternetTubes@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seriously, this is the least of its problems, but it certainly hints at them: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/554307/Just-wanted-a-warning-Lemmy-World-is-perhaps-worse-than-reddit

Basically, they don't even follow the examples they set in their Terms of Service and will not only ban but purge your entire comment account on a whim because they didn't like the criticism they said they were open to on a post stating that "users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World." There's no doubt, they were pretty clear they considered the criticism "disagreeing with the terms of service".

Create your user on another instance and save yourself the surprise of encountering admins who abuse their power on a whim. That can be your entire account history down the drain, and the number of comments or the age of the account won't matter to them.

[-] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is exactly what I experienced when I was part of their top moderator and ban discussion discord channels. They would regularly ban people for little to no reason and then laugh about it and then realize they need to come up with reasons after the fact. This is also how they deal with defederation. They had defederated an instance more than once prior to having any concrete reasons to do so. They operate on gut feeling and disregard their own rules and ToS on the regular.

Not even Reddit is so unprofessional.

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[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Literally Reddit 2.0, but with a ~~F~~OSS coat of paint.

Lmao, what a shithole.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Even after moving here FROM Reddit, I can't stand the Redditors here

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Hexbear makes for a very nice chill place, although myself I like lemmygrad and have stuck with them for quite a while.

Lemmygrad is good only if you are an outright pinko.

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[-] qaz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you asked the admins/mods of lemmy.world about this before posting this?

[-] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course not, haha. Just some intentional misinterpretation.

[-] Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Redditors gonna Reddit

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