The enshittification will continue until morale improves.

linux mint people. youre not really using as much windows as you think

After leaving Windows I actually still get stressed just reading about stuff like this.

I only use Windows at work (because I have to). The thing that drives me fucking nuts, as an advanced computer user in general, is how God damned unintuitive the Office,OneDrive, and File explorer integration is.

I have no idea where I am saving stuff half the time(or more accurately have to change it each time because the defaults are dumb). I don't want it in my OneDrive downloads folder or OneDrive documents folder. I want it in my fucking laptop download folder or local documents folder.

Then Teams is saving stuff in SharePoint in the background, permissions are annoying AF. At least they'll flag that a recipient of an email attachment or imbedded url doesn't have access. So that's nice I guess.

Oh, then sometimes I'm prompted to save a copy of a shared document, but that's different from "download a copy". If you save a copy it just makes a new shared copy for everyone in the SharePoint site.

I feel like a boomer when I work with MS now. Maybe it's all enterprise settings for where I work and maybe it's not MS's fault but hot damn I am so much less productive than if I just used Gsuite, only office, on Mac or .

Maybe I just need to spend a week taking training classes on these products. But who tf has time for that when you have your actual job to do. So I guess that really sums up Microsoft for me: it's in the way and slowing me down.

This exact same thing happens when trying to cancel a subscription. Magellan TV wouldn't let me continue to cancel my subscription until I selected a reason for the cancellation.

So I exited the process and contacted support with the message "your website will not let me cancel without providing a reason".

They replied with "you can just select a reason and then it will allow you to continue"

To which I said "and where's the option to cancel without you holding my account hostage until I do what you demand of me?"

They replied with confirmation that they've cancelled my subscription for me.

It seems petty, but no company should be allowed to forcibly extract additional info out of you when you want to cancel. They can ask all they like, but never force.

selects other

'get fucked'

Just always click other and give them no info. Other is the worst field for analysts who are trying to deal with survey results.

First with Chrome, now with OneDrive. What exactly are they trying to do with these "explanations" aside from annoying their user base?

I'm okay with this as long as one of the options is

"Because fuck you, that's why."

Hey, Lemmy user in this thread: you're likely in the top 0.1% expertise of all computer users worldwide.

This prompt is aimed at my boomer dad, who wouldn't know what that funny icon is but read somewhere to close his apps for better speed. If his OneDrive docs disappear, I'll get a call about it. At the same time, Microsoft probably can't sell anything to my dad ever again, except his Office 365 subscription, so that makes him the product.

Microsoft is usually pretty good at letting tech users disable this kind of stuff with powershell commands or registry keys, which you already know how to do. And of course businesses join windows PCs to domains and disable this stuff centrally too.

if there's a 'fill in the blank' after choosing 'other'...... their 'ai' is going to melt from the responses.

They're training an internal AI on documents in OneDrive, I bet.

Reason: Other
Please specify: Nunya. Nunya bidness

This is the software giant equivalent of the Simpsons out of touch meme.

They're frantically looking for why nobody likes them while they're aggressively doing the thing that nobody likes them because of.

IMO, this is a bit like having a fellow student in your same grade in highschool who asked you out on the first day of class despite not really even knowing your name and when you declined, they asked you why every day for the entire year, and no matter what you said, they would still ask again tomorrow, because your answer never satisfied them.

Listen to me Microsoft, you have a few winners, like Windows, maybe office/365 for the business folks (though, formerly, it was exchange), and a few other gems. Don't ruin the reputation you still have for making half decent operating systems by turning them into an ex that just won't stop calling.... IMO, this whole thing started when you axed MSN Messenger, and forcibly merged it into Skype, rather than bringing clever upgrades from the Skype codebase over to messenger. Everything went downhill from there. Even teams is still tainted by the Skype for business shenanigans that happened. You messed up. Stop irritating the clientele that you still have and give it a rest. Just make a good operating system, and focus on innovation. I haven't seen any of that from you folks since the release of the NT kernel; it's all been predictable iterative changes.

Back the hell off.

Especially infuriating is that I use OneDrive for work and I've got it running all the time but Microsoft decided I need another instance of it running, that I then have to close every time it decides to start up again. What?

The same URL now: Microsoft gives in and lets you close OneDrive on Windows without explaining yourself

Update November 10th, 4:45AM ET: Microsoft has removed the dialog forcing users to fill out a survey when quitting OneDrive, and reverted to the original prompt. In a statement sent to The Verge, Microsoft says:

Between Nov. 1 and 8, a small subset of consumer OneDrive users were presented with a dialog box when closing the OneDrive sync client, asking for feedback on the reason they chose to close the application. This type of user feedback helps inform our ongoing efforts to enhance the quality of our products.

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I feel like the EU needs to get on top of this

I know that this is just Microsoft trying get user feedback but because it's Microsoft, it still seems bad. It's just seems so disingenuous when a company like Microsoft, that usually ignores all user feedback, tries to get user feedback for a product that, if they actually listened to user feedback, they would already know that a majority of Windows users don't want.

Does selecting Other let you enter in some freetext? Because this is begging for some nastygrams.

Counterattack: Task Manager

It's close to malware. I recently helped a friend with his Surface Pro; He had two instances of Onedrive as well as two of Teams running. One with his private Account and one with work & school. There just wasn't an easy to find quit option for him anymore so everything was constantly running his battery dead and autostarting after rebooting.

this alone is going to push me away from using it. I'm very petty like that. anyone have good alternatives?

Select other. Paste in Ulysses. Submit.

Did you order the program to close?

You're goddamn right I did!

Shit. I really I hope "fuck you, I do what I want." is an option?