I'm not sure if it's entirely degoogled, but I use LineageOS 19 without gapps and it goes quite nicely.
At the moment, e/OS and Graphene are two of the very few ROMs which pass SafetyNet OOTB.
Once KernelSU becomes mainstream, every device will pass SafetyNet, till the time Google changes something drastically
First GrapheneOS (and maybe e/OS? Not sure as I haven't looked at them) is a fully featured OS and not a ROM. Second, it depends on the level of attestation, but GrapheneOS only passes MEETS_BASIC_INTEGRITY (again, not sure on e/OS).
And Google already "changed something drastically" as SafetyNet is deprecated (replaced by PlayIntegrity).
https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide
My apologies, I have no idea of the difference between a ROM and a mobile OS, since I use both interchangeably (colloquially speaking). Is this a GNU/Linux like affair?
I didn't know about play integrity. Is this new with Android 14? I'd be OK with not caring but most mobiles in the US don't have custom ROM support any more. I'm waiting for KernelSU and custom patch support to grow so as to modify my mobile at all. I do not like where the industry is going. Even the FP5 was not released here (absolute shame)
the difference between a ROM and a mobile OS, since I use both interchangeably (colloquially speaking).
Most people mistakenly do. GrapheneOS much prefers people to use the proper term of OS, so I try and do so.
I didn't know about play integrity. Is this new with Android 14?
Nope. PlayIntegrity was announced anout 2.5 years ago. SafetyNet actually sunsets 31 Jan 24, unless the dev got an approved extension, and then it's 31 Jan 25 for that specific app.
Does Graphene do play integrity OOTB?
Do they also support widewine L1 or the downgraded L3.
L1 as of the 1023 release:
Pixel 6, Pixel 6 Pro, Pixel 6a, Pixel 7, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 7a, Pixel Tablet, Pixel Fold: fix support for Widevine L1 on Android 14
Thanks for sharing. Good to know if i was into custom roms. At least pixel devices would be feasible for widevine.
No idea. I don't stream
You can use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.androidfung.drminfo
@boblaw0 @askandroid LineageOS gets my recommend.
I've been a long time user (since way back when it was still called CyanogenMod!) and, although I had installed gapps on my devices, the official releases come degoogled by default. They also include many in-house FOSS alternatives to Google's core apps which are otherwise missing on stock AOSP (like the Eleven music player, Jelly browser, etc) so it can be 100% used out of the box without any kind of gapp package installed
Graphene if you've got a recent pixel, e/OS or Lineage (not entirely degoogled??) if you've got a Fairphone
For everything else maybe Lineage and do the degoogling manually (if any components remain)? Calyx OS is a thing too, but I don't hear it discussed a lot nowadays.
I've been using calyxos for the last couple weeks, and I love it! Was using lineage before this, and calyx is better: locked bootloader, easier install, davx5 and signal included out of the box, and actual functional system backups! Plus it comes with a play store compat layer and f-droid so you can download apps without logging into google.
/e/OS
@askandroid i was thinking of trying graphene OS
@boblaw0 @askandroid I would recommend eOS. Everything works out of the box and you have a cloud to store your medias.
Anyone have thoughts on iodeOS in this conversation? Thats what I was last considering. It'd be interesting if folks shared their thought on the pros & cons of the options they're familiar with
@boblaw0 @askandroid Definitely @GrapheneOS
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