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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Rank-and-file members of both the House and Senate are paid $174,000 a year.

That probably seems like a decent amount of money, and it is: The median household income in 2022 was $74,580, according to the US Census.

But consider that members of Congress generally have to maintain two residences — one in Washington, DC, and one in their home state — and that they haven't gotten a raise since 2009.

Inflation, meanwhile, has eaten away at the value of that salary over time: If lawmakers' salaries had kept pace with inflation, they would be paid over $250,000 today.

Rep. Patrick McHenry, a North Carolina Republican who served as the interim speaker of the House following Kevin McCarthy's ouster, told The Dispatch that congressional pay needed to be raised in order to attract "credible people to run for office."

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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 212 points 11 months ago

Let's just build a big congressional dorm with furnished studio apartments and make them all live there when Congress is in session. It would save the government a fortune in cost of living reimbursements and security costs.

[-] Dukeofdummies@kbin.social 73 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know genuinely I don't understand why this isn't a thing. It's expensive to have two homes, especially when you aren't even sure you'll have the job for more than four years. It would lower the cost of entry into politics for people who do work minimum wage.

Shoving someone into a land full of surprise expenses seems like a perfect recipe for corruption.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

It would lower the cost of entry into politics for people who do work minimum wage.

It sounds like you understand perfectly well. Politics is for rich people to get more power, and get richer by granting favors to their friends. "Public servant" is the lie they tell to make us feel good about it.

Yes, I know that there are the few modest politicians, but it's the exception to the rule.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Congressional barracks or even a neighborhood would actually be a great idea. It could get its own metro line.

Like it’s a job with a lot of time there. I think it’s fair that they be able to comfortably live there with their spouses and other loved ones, but it would be good to keep housing centralized to them. I’m reminded of Air Force neighborhoods where I grew up. Sometimes your aimless walk would get you a conversation with someone holding a machine gun because there are medium security off base residences

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[-] cannibalkitteh@lemmy.blahaj.zone 137 points 11 months ago

Maybe they should skip their avocado toast or drink less Starbucks?

[-] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 11 months ago

Something something bootstraps

[-] teft@startrek.website 126 points 11 months ago

If inflation has eaten away at your 6 figure salary that hasn’t been updated since 2009 imagine how the plebs making $7.25/hr feel.

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[-] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 102 points 11 months ago

Tie their pay to a multiplier of the minimum wage.

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 39 points 11 months ago

And don't give them the authority to change the multiplier number.

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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 93 points 11 months ago

Id be significantly more open to this if you assholes hadn't spent the last 50 years helping steal money from the poor for billionaires.

[-] brennansv@sfba.social 82 points 11 months ago

@MicroWave @steinbring We should not increase their pay. Instead we should simply provide housing connected with public transit so members of Congress can cut some of their costs and actually experience what it is like to live this way. They already get great healthcare and access to a fitness center and cafeteria.

[-] just_change_it@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I understand what you're saying but I think you can't get elected to a national house or senate seat without being wealthy or very connected to wealth.

The income is mostly just a joke. There should be an equitable way for people without an income or wealthy connections to be elected on merit and opinions rather than by virtue of giant funding.

Personally I vote for election advertising bans by 3rd parties and to make all election advertising done through a collective pool of funds shared by all candidates. These fucking PACs are a big problem today and they are everywhere

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 67 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most of us don't have wealth

Reality disagrees. While over half of Congress are millionaires, the highest credible number for the US population in general is 12%

In fact, the 100 highest earners in Congress more than doubled (https://ballotpedia.org/Personal_Gain_Index_(U.S._Congress) their personal wealth in a single year, with the top 10 "earners" increasing their wealth on average 422% in a single year!

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Hey, everyone: he just said 12% of the United States population are millionaires. More than one out of every 10 people. Think about that.

Guess how net worth looks for the bottom 88%.

Wealth disparity in this country is insane.

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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago

Congressional pay rate should be tied to national minimum wage rate. In order to raise one you have to raise both by the same percentage.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 64 points 11 months ago

If you can't live on 170k a year, you probably shouldn't be making decisions for those on 30k.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

I am completely down with paying Congress a shit ton of money, but we're going to need a zero tolerance policy on bribery and lobbying.

You're not going to get CEO payment and tips.

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[-] CrazyEddie041@kbin.social 58 points 11 months ago

If they're struggling, then maybe they should pick up a second job, maybe cancel some of those subscription services?

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago

Stop buying Starbucks and avocado toast

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Funny how they cry about not being able to live on almost 200grand a year, yet they expect my grandmother to live on 12k a year from social security.

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[-] SaltySalamander@kbin.social 49 points 11 months ago

The equivalent of $83/hr if they worked 40 hrs a week for 52 weeks. I think their pay is fine just where it is.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Clearly he just needs to buy less avacado toast and get a third job.

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[-] t3h_fool@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

Federal minimum wage in 2009: 7.25. Federal minimum wage in 2023: 7.25. Cry me a fuckin river.

[-] Whoresradish@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Maybe congresses salary should be a multiple of minimum wage so they always get increased together.

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[-] Candelestine@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago
[-] solarvector@lemmy.zip 26 points 11 months ago

No joke, but many of them do essentially bunk together, especially the ones that aren't horribly corrupt.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

This isn't as wild as it sounds.

A family friend was elected to Congress, and he had been an HVAC contractor prior to his election, and the move to DC was financially difficult because DC housing is very expensive and they still had a mortgage back in their district.

How did he work things out? He started accepting donations, and that's as slippery slope. He's become as corrupt as they come and I'm ashamed to have been his friend.

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Hey Buddy, most of us don't have wealth, either.

[-] ATDA@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

I'd be happy to have tax funded basic housing for them in DC.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago
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[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

To be fair, they need a house in their hometown and a house in DC. That can be extremely expensive. You want congressmen to be financially independent so that they don't need to accept bribes and such.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

They'd still accept bribes if they were paid 5 million a day.

Its not about the money.

its about the position, and power.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 37 points 11 months ago

are you fucking kidding me. if my salary had kept up with inflation, id be making 250k. if average people dont get that benefit, why the fuck should they.

on top of that, they have rules specifically allowing them to game the stock market with their insider knowledge.

if you cant make money being a congresscritter, youre just not trying.

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 37 points 11 months ago

'Most of us don't have wealth'

Welcome to the fucking club.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 11 months ago

while i agree that it's probably hard since you essentially have to travel and live in two places id have a lot more sympathy if they also didn't continually push for tax cuts for billionaires while opposing minimum wage increases, or voting against single payer while having government funded healthcare, or voting against the inflation reduction act...

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

They should give up their avocado toast.

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[-] notannpc@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Honestly that’s more fucking money than they deserve. They spend more time bickering than working it seems.

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[-] calypsopub@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

It should be tied to federal minimum wage. You want a raise? The rest of us get one, too.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 28 points 11 months ago

That's equivalent to 24,000 hours at the federal minimum wage.

There are only 8,760 hours in a year.

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[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

They need to stop whining and work harder on pulling themselves up by the bootstraps.

Hmmm, not so fun when that bullshit refrain is thrown back in your faces, is it Republican politicians.

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Seriously guys when do we start burning shit.

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[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Then. What. The. Fuck. Do. You. Think. Life. Is. Like. For. Your. Constituents.

These idiots are literally building their own gallows to be strung up on. Mind boggling lack of foresight.

No, no, no. Calm down everyone. No one has ever died from revolutions triggered by oppressed populations...

[-] solarvector@lemmy.zip 27 points 11 months ago

As others have said, tie it to minimum wage increases.

Also... I would trade paying them ten times as much for a prohibition on them owning or trading in the stock market in a heart beat. It's inherently a conflict of interest that puts them at odds with the majority of their constituents.

[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 25 points 11 months ago

This is why only rich people that don't give a shit about normal people end up in Congress. Regular people can't afford to be in Congress.

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago
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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

If they're whining about making over twice the median income, they should consider making moves to lower the cost of living for everyone else. If it's not good enough for them, why should the rest of us suffer?

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Maybe there can be dorm rooms for congress

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