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Alaska Air Grounds Boeing 737 Max-9 Fleet After Fuselage Blowout::Alaska Airlines will ground its entire fleet of Boeing Co. 737 Max-9 aircraft after a fuselage section in the rear part of the brand-new jet blew out shortly after takeoff.

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[-] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 9 months ago

What's it been, seven days since the last 737 Max story?

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's been one week since I posted:

Everything you need to know about why there isn't an "abundance of caution" and Boeing is now run by penny pinchers who would gladly sacrifice your life for their stock grants and how they've captured regulators and left them toothless is covered in the incredible book "flying Blind", and it has echoes to many other companies with storied pasts that are picked to the bone by temporary profiteers and discarded once dead. Can't recommend it highly enough.

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/646497/flying-blind-by-peter-robison/

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 9 months ago

just stop with these Max plane. you cheap motherfuckers wanted to save a dime by slapping too big an engine on an existing frame, and look at what fucking happening.

dead people all over the fucking place, and the machines are clearly not safe not matter how much bullshit you bolt on to them.

stop with the max you profit hungry monsters. STOP!

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 31 points 9 months ago

It appears that the door design is unchanged from the previous generation.

The problem is not with any specific part of the design or any model of plane. Grounding the Max again will not help past fixing this specific fault.

It is the fundamental corporate culture. The same poor QA, both in design and production, affects all current Boeing aircraft.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 9 months ago

ahh, didnt undertand it was so systemic at boeing. are these companies just too big now to be held accountable? they kill hundreds of people and , what, they get fines and some light regulatory action.

how about dissolution of your corporate charter. when can we start holding corporations accountable in a more criminal manner?

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

I used to work in commercial aircraft certification. Boeing and other manufacturers typically have their own in house ODA (basically a certifying body that is overseen by the FAA). The ODA is given power to approve certain things by the FAA, this is done because the FAA isn't big enough to review every aircraft engineering decision and regulation. The FAA regulations are written in blood, it is a set of reactionary rules, so if it hasn't been directly involved in a crash yet it is unregulated. Boeing only makes money when they sell planes, so there is corporate pressure to approve things that might be on the edge of the regulation requirement. Also it takes years to develop a new plane. The Max line was 100% a cost saving decision. Instead of designing and certifying a new frame they only had to certify the new engines and engine mounts.

[-] grayman@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The MIT Sloan School of Business has generationally harmed companies. They preach people management (no technical leadership) and multiple layers of managers. All decisions are top down. Feedback is not present. Information does not flow up, only status.

The stock market incentivizes quarterly and annual goals over long term stability, morality, and ethics. No business with such short term goals will ever succeed long term. I firmly believe that no business can be trusted that's publicly traded.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Before we leap to conclusions about this, let's not forget that this very nearly happened to a A321neo back in October.

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