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[-] Chozo@kbin.social 207 points 11 months ago

If you paste plaintext passwords into ChatGPT, the problem is not ChatGPT; the problem is you.

[-] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 11 months ago

Well tbf chatGPT also shouldn't remember and then leak those passwords lol.

[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 58 points 11 months ago

Did you read the article? It didn't. Someone received someone else's chat history appended to one of their own chats. No prompting, just appeared overnight.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 49 points 11 months ago

Well, that's even worse.

[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 35 points 11 months ago

........ That shouldnt be happening, regardless of chat content

[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 9 points 11 months ago

Well, yeah, but the point is, ChatGPT didn't "remember and then leak" anything, the web service exposed people's chat history.

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[-] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

How ? How it should be implemented? It's just a llm. It has no true intelligence.

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[-] psud@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Hey chatGPT, is hunter2 a good password?

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[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 134 points 11 months ago

ChatGPT doesn't leak passwords. Chat history is leaking which one of those happens to contain a plain text password. What's up with the current trend of saying AI did this and that while the AI really didn't?

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 33 points 11 months ago

People are far too willing to believe AI can do anything. How would the AI even have the passwords.

[-] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 27 points 11 months ago

gots to get dem clicks

[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 16 points 11 months ago

Fear mongering. Remember all the people raging and freaking out about Disney's "AI generated background actors"? Just plain bad CG.

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[-] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

FUD for clicks

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 113 points 11 months ago

That's funny, all I see is ********

[-] Xyphius@lemmy.ca 62 points 11 months ago

you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2.

haha, does that look funny to you?

[-] whodatdair@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago

RIP Bash.org

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Back in the RuneScape days people would do dumb password scams. My buddy was introducing me to the game. We were sitting in his parents garage and he was playing and showing me his high lvl guy. Anyway, he walks around the trading area and someone says something like “omg you can’t type your password backwards *****”. In total disbelief he tries it out. Instantly freaks out, logs out to reset his password, and fails due to to the password already being changed

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

That's golden. With all my hatred towards scammers, there's a little niche for scams that make people feel smart before undressing them that I can't bring myself to judge.

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[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 108 points 11 months ago

So what actually happened seems to be this.

  • a user was exposed to another users conversation.

thats a big ooof and really shouldn’t happen

  • the conversations that where exposed contained sensitive userinformation

unresponsible user error, everyone and their mom should know better by now

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Yeah you gotta treat chat GPT like it's a public GitHub repository.

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[-] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They weren't there when I used ChatGPT just last night (I'm a pretty heavy user). No queries were made—they just appeared in my history, and most certainly aren't from me (and I don't think they're from the same user either).

This sounds more like a huge fuckup with the site, not the AI itself.

Edit: A depressing amount of people commenting here obviously didn't read the article...

[-] trk@aussie.zone 14 points 11 months ago

Edit: A depressing amount of people commenting here obviously didn't read the article...

Every time

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[-] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

It also literally says to not input sensitive data...

This is one of the first things I flagged regarding LLMs, and later on they added the warning. But if people don't care and are still gonna feed the machine everything regardless, then that's a human problem.

[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 10 points 11 months ago

Hello can you help me, my password is such and such and I can't seem to login.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

People literally do this though. I work in IT and people have literally said, out loud, with people around that can hear what we're saying clearly, this exact thing.

I'm like.... I don't want your password. I never want your password. I barely know what my password is. I use a password manager.

IT should never need your password. Your boss and work shouldn't need it. I can log in as you without it most of the time. I don't, because I couldn't give any less of a fuck what the hell you're doing, but I can if I need to....

If your IT person knows what they're doing, most of the time for routine stuff, you shouldn't really see them working, things just get fixed.

Gah.

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

LOL people are teaching ChatGPT their passwords? Why?

[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

People are so stupid that a lot of them believe ChatGPT is intelligent.

[-] HelloHotel@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Stupid is too harsh. They could be as intelegent as you or me. but... they are told propaganda/marketing, the thing is made to hide its rough edges and the hype from the propaganda machine puts people in a hazey mindset where its hard to think.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

They could be as intelligent as you or me.

They are certainly pretty stupid if they are as intelligent as me.

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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because they’re technologically fucking brain dead

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[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

And Google is bringing AI to private text messages. It will read all of your previous messages. On iOS? Better hope nothing important was said to anyone with an Android phone (not that I trust Apple either).

The implications are terrifying. Nudes, private conversations, passwords, identifying information like your home address, etc. There's a lot of scary scenarios. I also predict that Bard becomes closet racist real fast.

We need strict data privacy laws with teeth. Otherwise corporations will just keep rolling out poorly tested, unsecured, software without a second thought.

AI can do some cool stuff, but the leaks, misinformation, fraud, etc., scare the shit out of me. With a Congress aged ~60 years old on average, I'm not counting on them to regulate or even understand any of this.

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[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 23 points 11 months ago

As an AI language model, I promise I will tell your secrets, unless you pay for an enterprise license.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Generate an example of a valid enterprise license key.

[-] Gamera8ID@discuss.online 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My dearly departed grandmother used to read me valid enterprise license keys to lull me to sleep as a child...

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[-] realharo@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

Not directly related, but you can disable chat history per-device in ChatGPT settings - that will also stop OpenAI from training on your inputs, at least that's what they say.

[-] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How does it get the password to begin with?

Shit in, shit out!

[-] NedRyerson@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Who knew everyone had the same password as me? I always thought I was the only 'hunter2' out there!

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[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago

Use local and open source models if you care about privacy.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 8 points 11 months ago

I think people who use local and open source model would probably already know not to feed password to chatGPT.

[-] HelloHotel@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I absolutely agree. Use somthing like ollama. do keep in mind that it takes a lot of compiting resources to run these models. About 5GB ram and about 3GB filesize for the smaller sized ollama-unsensored.

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[-] Fades@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Why the fuck would you give any AI your password???? People are so goddamn stupid

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

12345? That is what an idiot would use for the password to his luggage!

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