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submitted 10 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

$300 Vision Pro developer strap is just an expensive USB2 device::Apple is selling developers a $300 USB-C dongle to connect the Apple Vision Pro to a Mac, but in this incarnation, it turns out to be no faster than Wi-Fi.

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[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 103 points 10 months ago

So a supposedly cutting edge $3500 device plus an additional $300 dongle gets a wired connection speed from the year 2000. USB 2 is 24 years old

Welcome to the future folks.

[-] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago

I'd pay double that for an apple Istrap-on™!

[-] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

You mean the bill?

[-] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Now with direct connection to all of your favourite apps!

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

Nah but it's white and designed very sleek so it must be worth it

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I knew, that's why I bought so many apple stocks.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 60 points 10 months ago

It's hilarious how Apple still insists on making all their mobile devices USB 2. Have they not cracked the code for USB 3 after 11 years?

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

USB 4 was designed 4 years ago ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4 ) and they still using usb 2? TIL

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 10 months ago

USB 2, 3 and 4 are not direct new versions depracating previous ones. Those are tiers, versions are reprecented after the point, like 3.1 is directly better than 3.0 .

USB 2 is not something that shouldn't be used because USB 3 exists. It is just simpler, just four pins, two for power and two for data, meanwhile USB 4 requires much more complex stuff. Just like new Intel i7 processor does not invalidate new Intel i3.

Still on a high-end phone 2.0 is bad, like putting i3 on high-end laptop.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What is bad, that is asking such prices for USB 2, that's what I've meant, it's like selling another 8gb of ram to upgrade to 16gb total for 500$

[-] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

The pro models aren’t usb 2, just the normal models, as those are using the same processor as last gen. The usb controller is in the processor and last gen they were using lightning (which was usb 2.0).

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3 and I believe current gen iPads are either usb 3 or thunderbolt

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3

After the EU forced them to adopt USB C

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

It's not about USB C but about the USB version. Only their Pro models have USB 3 but the other ones have USB 2.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

USB 3 wasn't an option whilst they were sticking with lightning, and if the EU hadn't forced them they clearly wouldn't have switched.

The reason the new non-pro iPhones use USB 2 is because they still use the old chip which previously used lightning, and as such never had a reason to support USB 3.

So I would say this is about the connector, even though you're technically correct that the protocol is separate from the standard.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

The reason they have USB2 is because they are using the same motherboard as previous models. They just soldered the USB-c port to where their lightning port used to be.

Meaning their lightning port was about as fast as USB2.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Not the same motherboard, but the same SoC.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

$300 for a strap from Apple? That's cheap compared to the $999 wheels. People are gonna gobble those up lickety split.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

You’re not the target for either; they’re meant to milk business customers who don’t care about price.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I am fully aware my sad, poor, sorry ass is not the target market for pretty much any Apple product.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 26 points 10 months ago

They’ve gotta be trolling at this point.

[-] vanontom@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Just extracting wealth from the ~~cult~~ fans and tech illiterate. And they will keep pushing the insane prices, until people stop paying (sounds familiar). I wish they'd use their absurd profits to actually bring to market something truly spectacular. Dyson makes more daring and innovative products, funded by vacuums, heh.

[-] modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

dyson is in every sense the apple of vacuums lol

[-] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

It's Closed Source. No one truly knows how it really works. That means you were right to begin with. It's a gorramn cult.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago

If it’s just USB 2, wouldn’t that be slower than WiFi in a lot of cases? Maybe not in a crowded area (like offices, which is probably a representative environment for a lot of developers purchasing this), but if you’re in short range of an AP you should be able to get over 500Mbps. Apple also likes to use WiFi direct, such as in airdrop, which can cut the AP out for shorter distance and therefore faster speeds.

[-] randombullet@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

It's also Wifi AX which I've hit 600mbps with my phone.

Buttttt it's wifi AX for 5ghz only.

[-] AGD4@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Aren't they really paying for a dev license and support? Can they develop for the apple vision without the device?

edit

Nevermind. The article suggests the strap is a development "accelerator". :/

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 18 points 10 months ago

Yep thats right, you can totally do photoshopping or coding or work on spreadsheets with this device, it totally isnt an extremely overpriced demo of what could maybe someday kind of almost make sense for anything beyond extremely casual computer usage.

[-] Railison@aussie.zone 9 points 10 months ago

So what are the Apple engineers using?

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Finding new and innovative ways to charge $300 for a USB cable.

[-] Toes@ani.social 8 points 10 months ago

So when should I expect the collaboration between Elon and apple? so I can get an eye phone like Futurama.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sooner than we think, which is scary, imagine suddenly catching cyberpsychosis because you didn't paid your monthly kiroshi optics subscription fee and constant ads even if you paid

[-] Toes@ani.social 7 points 10 months ago

Ransomware on your life

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

The future is here, and it's ridiculously SLOW and ridiculously EXPENSIVE.

I'd rather stay in 2012. The switch to Lightning is basically all I can handle when it comes to controversy.

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