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[-] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 142 points 8 months ago

Who could've imagined that Google is becoming just as mediocre and boring as any other large corporation. What a surprise!

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 75 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's happening at my company right now. We just merged. I got a taste of power, performed well, then got written up for spending too much time on my power project. Now they have neutered any power I had, and I'm a glorified babysitter and messenger. The hunt now begins in earnest.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Damn that sucks. I've been laid off before, and I was lucky enough to have a bunch of references and ins at other jobs right away.

Just keep making friends and building marketable skills on the company dime, is what I am doing anyway

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

Yes, I'm in no danger of being fired it doesn't seem. I've been there 6 years and have an enormous amount of knowledge of our product and operations. And it was just a 'verbal counseling' (which is written down, sent to HR, and added to your record; totally verbal though). So I'll just keep on project managing timelines and crap, and collecting my Pacheck. But now I have like 8 months of successful product management under my belt to add to the resume

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[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

A few years ago the MBA suits took over from the nerds and it became inevitable.

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[-] Psyduck_world@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

I am old enough to remember that Apple was the pirate of Silicon Valley, and then it became the most “cooperation” company in the industry. Then it’s Google then there will be a next one. It’s probably inevitable for any company to go this route.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

It's cute that you think any new corporation of that calibre will be born in near future. It will get bought out before that happens

It be the age of pirates no morrre? Arr... :C

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They've long been quite mediocre judging by the incredible long hours of those working there and shit quality of basically any technical framework they put out.

They have shoved tons of resources into some things (such as Android) and thus at times succeeded (though usually they don't), but in terms of quality from a technical point of view (i.e. software design, technical architecture) their stuff looks like it was hammered together by a bunch of junior devs.

Lucky timing followed by some smart strategical decisions (and, seemingly, lots of money together with a throw everything at the wall and see what sticks management strategy) are what made Google, not excellence.

[-] psivchaz@reddthat.com 35 points 8 months ago

It's unfair to discount Google's early days. They DID have technical excellence. Search was leagues better than the competition. Gmail was an amazing leap from other providers. Android started as trash but improved rapidly. The Nexus line of phones was amazing. Google Maps was a huge improvement over what else existed. They did a lot right.

I can't pinpoint exactly when the fall started. Was it when Pichai became CEO? When they removed "don't be evil?" I remember a speech Pichai gave where he talked about "more wood behind fewer arrows" as why they were getting rid of employee child projects, so maybe it was that.

[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 12 points 8 months ago

I can't pinpoint exactly when the fall started.

In my opinion, it was when anti-trust laws did not trigger upon Google acquiring YouTube because Google Video couldn't compete. That meant it was open season on start-ups that otherwise might have grown to kill Google or other big tech companies like Apple, Facebook and Microsoft.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Oh yeah, I even forgot Google Video used to be a thing.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 9 points 8 months ago

Android started as trash

It started off by beating the pants off of iOS in terms of features, but was not nearly as polished.

Definitely not trash. But also not polished for the masses.

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[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

When times are tough
Work environment gets rough

I guess.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 33 points 8 months ago

Tough times create rough workplaces, rough workplaces create strong employees, strong employees create unions, unions create better workplaces.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

When times are tough

Work environment gets rough

Delete stuff from prod

To keep things interesting enough

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[-] hades@lemm.ee 103 points 8 months ago

[...] Sundar Pichai defended the layoffs and claimed that workers sometimes reach out to express gratitude for the cuts.

"It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week."

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Those workers are kissing ass to make their careers.

Sundar is a complete idiot if he believes what those guys say. And he probably doesn't, but it sounds good to the press I guess.

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 93 points 8 months ago

Layoffs will continue until morale improves.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 50 points 8 months ago

This has been a huge problem for Google for several years now. Under Sundar, Google implemented several regressive "un-Google" policies like Unregretted Attrition (URA) to reduce worker numbers, shifting responsibility to managers and senior leadership to determine technical vision, and promoting people who are solely focused on "empire building" over delivering the best products. The result is a management-heavy structure where policies like "put AI in everything" and "display more ads" are likely to be a business driver over making the best products.

[-] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Glassy eyed: drunk and/or high as fuck.

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 37 points 8 months ago

I feel like the editor that wrote the headline missed the main point of the article. The headline makes the article sound like there are a bunch of dumb and boring middle managers at Google. The actual article has nothing to do with people's direct bosses or even their bosses' bosses. The article was about how Google execs are ruining the company to appease the shareholders. Best quote from the article is:

“We get that execs are excited about Google’s future,” another question reportedly said. “Why should we be excited, when we might get laid off and not be around to share in that future? If we lose our jobs and equity grants, it’s cold comfort that Google is succeeding off our hard work, and we don’t get rewarded for it, but you do.”

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 8 months ago

It's the same everywhere. Companies will kick people out when they want to. Any talk of family or loyalty is extreamly manipulative.

You're right. Google employs over 140k people.

If the average team is 8-10 people, this article is kinda complaining about 10000+ people being shitty at their jobs.

When really, middle managers are also part of the same worker class.

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Verge reported that CEO Sundar Pichai defended the layoffs and claimed that workers sometimes reach out to express gratitude for the cuts. “And I just want to clarify that, through these changes, people feel it on the ground and sometimes people write back and say, ‘Thank you for simplifying.’ Sometimes we have a complicated, duplicative structure,” he said, per the Verge.

Chalmers: People send thank you's for lay offs?

Pichai: Yes.

Chalmers: May I see one?

Pichai: No.

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[-] flathead@lemm.ee 30 points 8 months ago

Quick! Somebody order more pizza and ping pong tables...

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[-] psychothumbs@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

This is why companies should be run by their workers. Even places that start out with a good culture get taken over by the business school blob whose only job is to get promoted and loot the company.

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[-] Clent@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

From the article:

“And I just want to clarify that, through these changes, people feel it on the ground and sometimes people write back and say, ‘Thank you for simplifying.’ Sometimes we have a complicated, duplicative structure”

Employees think leadership is out of touch. This statement from the CEO proves this problem exists and starts at the top.

[-] Squire1039@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago
[-] laughterlaughter@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago
[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

A good example of a bottom-feeding boomer who went batshit insane.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

This makes me so sad, I really enjoyed the comic for years and years. Then he had to go and open his fucking mouth and ruin the entire thing. Now I feel a twinge of disgust rather than delight when I see a reference of him.

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[-] Tramort@programming.dev 34 points 8 months ago

Scott Adams is a complete piece of shit

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I didn't know what this was about. I found this that can serve as context for others unaware: https://www.npr.org/2023/02/26/1159580425/newspapers-have-dropped-the-dilbert-comic-strip-after-a-racist-rant-by-its-creat

[...] Adams urged white people "to get the hell away from Black people" during a racist rant on his online video program last week, during which he labeled Black people a "hate group."

On his video show last week, the 65 year old said he had been identifying as Black "because I like to be on the winning team," and that he used to help the Black community. Adams said the results of the Rasmussen poll changed his mind.

"It turns out that nearly half of that team doesn't think I'm okay to be white," he said, adding that he would re-identify as white. "I'm going to back off from being helpful to Black America because it doesn't seem like it pays off," he said. "I get called a racist. That's the only outcome. It makes no sense to help Black Americans if you're white. It's over. Don't even think it's worth trying."

This is not the first time Adams' strip has been dropped. Last year, The San Francisco Chronicle and 76 other newspapers published by Lee Enterprises reportedly dropped Dilbert after Adams introduced his first Black character. Quinn noted that the move was "apparently to poke fun at 'woke' culture and the LGBTQ community."

[-] Tramort@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

Thanks for that. I should have included some context.

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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

This is what happens when entitled business bros take over. The sort of person who is uninterested in tech but is interested in quarterly bonuses will be inept and glassy eyed.

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