685
Crunchyroll (lemy.lol)
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Bigtiddygothgrany@lemmy.world 262 points 10 months ago

If buying isn't ownership then pirating isn't stealing

[-] Syndic@feddit.de 77 points 10 months ago

Oh but it's not buying! The big "Buy" or "Purchase" button might have said so, but if you'd have careful read through 35 pages of user agreements, you'd see that you only rent the license to stream it.

Which obviously is total bullshit and the whole fucking system should be burned to the ground.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 40 points 10 months ago

Pirating isn't stealing either way.

Also, copyright infringement never even used to ever be a crime, although now there is a form of criminal copyright infringement, if it's done for money or if the value is above a certain amount. Thanks to lobbying from wealthy industries. Most copyright infringement still is not a crime, though.

The reason industries lobby for harsher copyright laws is because they know they can make more money if people can't pirate. They take the piss with their pricing, but they're acutely aware that if they take the piss too much then people will turn to piracy. By prohibiting piracy and levying harsh penalties they can get away with even more unfair pricing, and maybe even profit from piracy through punitive damages (which is mainly a US thing, most sensible nations only allow you to sue for actual damages).

load more comments (73 replies)
[-] null@slrpnk.net 31 points 10 months ago

Licensing isn't ownership, and pirating isn't stealing, it's copyright infringement.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago

The previous comment is more like shorthand, rather than literal truth.

It's faster to say piracy isn't stealing if purchasing isn't ownership than it is to say "if a company can simply reverse a permanent access license at any time then pirating media from them is perfectly ethical and should not be considered a crime"

load more comments (8 replies)
[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

Infringe me harder daddy ©👄©

load more comments (52 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] mighty_alfredo@lemmy.world 211 points 10 months ago

A clarification that really only makes this worse: Crunchyroll did not acquire Funimation. Funimation acquired Crunchyroll, and decided to use the Crunchyroll name instead. They have had every opportunity since the merger to support people's purchases, but have chosen not to.

[-] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 104 points 10 months ago

Tired of honoring your contracts? Simply purchase a different company and hide behind their name.

[-] Fermion@mander.xyz 33 points 10 months ago

Or in the case of Comcast or Facebook, just rebrand without having to buy another company.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 10 months ago

Or if you're Google, create another company under a different name, split yourself up, then buy everything under that new umbrella (Alphabet). That'll keep the antitrust enforcers at bay...

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 10 months ago

This is incorrect. It was a merger. Sony owns both Crunchyroll and Funimation. That being said, the servers didn't magically disappear. Media could 1000% have been consolidated.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 89 points 10 months ago

This announcement is full of weasely language.

"We understand that you may have concerns about your digital copies from Funimation."

The problem is your concerns. We are being understanding about your problem.

"Please note that Crunchyroll does not currently support Funimation Digital copies, which means that access to previously available digital copies will not be supported."

Crunchyroll does not support this, which means that it will not be supported. Your role here is to note this.

"We appreciate your understanding..."

We are being appreciative. Your are being understanding. That's the way it is, got it?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 10 months ago

"We appreciate your patience" has always rubbed me the wrong way too. How dare you assume? I'm a very impatient man, and i know you [x company] appreciate nothing of real value

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] daveywaveyboy@feddit.ch 77 points 10 months ago

Feel bad for Abe. I had a same conversation with Garmin; it turns out when you buy lifetime maps it means for the duration we decide to support the product, which can have the lifetime of a mayfly and there is nothing they will do, and nothing you can do except not buy another Garmin product.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I did a quick google, you can torrent updates for free for at least some garmin products. Given you paid for lifetime map updates, I'd argue it's not even illegal.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

It's such a bullshit argument. Imagine buying a Snap-On wrench because of the lifetime warranty, and they told you, "Oh no no no no, we meant the lifetime of the wrench."

[-] BunnyKnuckles@startrek.website 35 points 10 months ago

I still have and use all my old Craftsman tools from the 90s. One of my 1/4 ratchets broke and since it's a made in the USA tool, I figured I would look for parts online and try to repair it. Unfortunately the parts cost more than the wrench on ebay, so I decided to take it to Lowes (who now distributes Craftsman tools) to see if they would honor the lifetime warranty. They had no qualms about honoring the warranty and replaced it with the current model, knowing full well the tool was 30 years old. The new ratchet is more ergonomic, has a finer tooth count and not nearly as sloppy as the old one. So shout out to Stanley and Lowes for doing the right thing.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Craftsman and Kobalt hand tools are honestly pretty great for like 99% of homeowner-handymen. My dad uses Snap-On because he's a farmer and he's hard on his tools. But me? Most I'm doing is tightening something in the house or wrenching on my car. I've never in my life had an issue with Craftsman tools.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 76 points 10 months ago

Fuck buying physical media, pirate digital media. It's better for the environment and your wallet.

[-] chooglers@lemmy.ml 49 points 10 months ago

you can also steal physical media from Walmart, copy it all to a hard drive, melt down and cast the plastic into dildos and buttplugs for your own enjoyment.

[-] hikikoma@ani.social 39 points 10 months ago

Did you just tell us to go fuck ourselves?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 20 points 10 months ago

With the material of stolen products, yes

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 12 points 10 months ago

I... uh.

This is technically true but dear lord you should not be melting down plastic without a ventilation system.

[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago

Don't use Walmart-melted-plastic dildos! They're not hygienic, bacteria can grow on them! Use silicone or glass, much safer and easy to clean 👍

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] DharkStare@lemmy.world 74 points 10 months ago

I still feel like it should be illegal for the button to say "Buy" or "Purchase" when you're actually leasing the item.

There should be a nice, big, summarized disclaimer right above the button explaining what exactly you are purchasing. I'm sure the 100 page EULA explains but nobody has time to read through the whole thing every time they make a digital purchase.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but that requires lawmakers to first not take money from these same companies who are implementing these practices.

load more comments (5 replies)
[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Serious question. Has there ever been a lawsuit, like individual or tort, that has gone after companies for this behavior? If so, what countries?

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't see the problem. You bought the product, you're allowed to download it in perpetuity, even if it's from a torrent site.

Hell, the law is on my side. Depending on where you live, there are laws which allow you to make copies of media you own for personal use.

You can use a VCR to record broadcast TV, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to make a copy of stuff that's available on streaming sites, etc. Especially if you bought it.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Fair use does allow you to back up your stuff. That's why you can rip CDs in the US. Nbd. They tried to make it stop, but it didn't. And I buy CDs specifically to rip the lossless audio off of them. You can also rip DVDs legally.

But Blu-Ray gets a little muddy. It's not the content that's the problem, but the DRM. You're allowed to back up the content, but it's technically illegal to defeat the DRM in order to access said content.

Hasn't stopped me. I don't make my MKVs available on the Internet. I acquire copies of my movies legitimately. What I do with the discs when I get home is honestly nobody's business.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] kamills@sh.itjust.works 33 points 10 months ago

I literally save a copy of digital content I "buy", cause "buying" obviously means "you can have the product for a bit, if we feel like it"

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

TBH I have a subscription to multiple streaming sites, but I usually torrent what I want to watch anyway.

I paid to watch it, I'm simply choosing to watch it in the way that's most convenient to me. Sometimes Netflix forgets to supply the video in the quality I paid for, so I'm simply helping them fulfill their contract.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 30 points 10 months ago

Excuse me while I continue to enjoy the salty sea air, practice my vocal projection for shanties, and peruse then collection of different national flags aboard to make sure they are convincing and not in need of mending.

Hilarious how CrunchyRoll actually did the 'live long enough to become the villain' thing.

[-] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

They didn't tho. Crunchyroll was the acquired one, Funimation just valued their own streaming platform less.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Sounds like a lawsuit to me.

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago

Doubtful. TOS would state that you're only licensing the media. If the media no longer exists, the license no longer exists.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I bought the fallout 4dlc when it was new. I went back to try and play recently and my dlc is gone and says I need to purchase it. My save files don't work cause they need the dlc so clearly I had it.

But it was years ago, I lost or deleted the email. I called up psn support and since all records of me having bought the dlc are gone on their end, they won't refund or give me the dlc back.

They literally swiped my purchase away and are asking me for a receipt to prove I bought it, 8 fucking years ago. At least with physical media, the studio doesn't walk into my apartment and steal my hard copies

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

Soooo… does anyone have a torrent of a complete and unabridged copy of that library?

Would be interested in lending my assistance in seeding.

[-] the_of_and_a_to@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

The same answer can be given to the question why people pirate digital content.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is simply false. The "quote" here fully omits a sentence without using a bracketed ellipsis, so you can't tell you're being deceived. The omitted sentence makes it clear that the claim made in the post about purchased digital copies is false; the thing we are discussing is not purchased digital copies. Full post from Crunchyroll; I will add emphasis to the sentence omitted by Mr. Goldfarb.

We understand that you may have concerns about your digital copies from Funimation. These Digital copies available on Funimation were a digital access to the content available on the DVDs or Blu-rays purchased.

Please note that Crunchyroll does not currently support Funimation Digital copies, which means that access to previously available digital copies will not be supported. However, we are continuously working to enhance our content offerings and provide you with an exceptional anime streaming experience. We appreciate your understanding and encourage you to explore the extensive anime library available on Crunchyroll.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~digital copies~~

digital conditional access licenses

Nobody but Funimation ever owned these files. Let's start calling a spade a spade and maybe people will start realizing how dumb of a purchase they are.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I see a lot of calls to just buy physical media but there are plenty of things that aren't available on physical media. But you can still make your own and depending on what it is, you might not need much to make copies. Games on Steam, for example, can be backed up by copying the installed files and finding a crack if it actually uses Steam's copy protection system (many games don't need cracks and can just be copied and run; such as Kerbal Space Program).

You can do this with GOG games too, and not even worry about cracks because they have no DRM, allowing you to merely make copies of the installers themselves.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I should make a store and sell a bunch of rented and leased content. Doesn't seem like there is anything stopping me from stealing from people, as long as I am a business and not an individual doing it.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2024
685 points (98.2% liked)

People Twitter

5392 readers
526 users here now

People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.

RULES:

  1. Mark NSFW content.
  2. No doxxing people.
  3. Must be a tweet or similar
  4. No bullying or international politcs
  5. Be excellent to each other.
  6. Provide an archived link to the tweet (or similar) being shown if it's a major figure or a politician.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS