Rooting for a Firefox focused 2024! 🦊
I read few weeks ago that firefox wasn't the priority anymore, but the services.
I guess an annual salary of one hundred trillion dollars, or however ridiculously much it was, wasn't enough for her.
doubt she'll get any more from stepping down... but yeah it's ridiculous how much some of these CEOs think they need. Especially in a company that is supposed to be better...
I know, my comment didn't make a lot of sense; her salary just triggered me tremendously the first time I heard what it was. This seemed like as good a place as any to express my disgust.
Believe that most people here on this platform would agree with you on that, consider your rant redeemed :)
CEO pay is so ridiculous, there's obviously no way they're going to self regulate so we need to either tie it to worker pay/well-being or put it under the control of their employees
Well, technically, CEOs don't pick their own salaries, they are decided by the board, and so, indirectly by the shareholders. Then again, she is also a board member, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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She was taking $5.6M from "related organizations" (not quite sure what that would be), but not much from the Mozilla Foundation itself. The rest of the board is taking $115k-$340k directly from the Foundation.
Those are insane amounts to me, in a non-profit. Non-profit sounds meaningless when considering certain people within the organization are making $340k off of donated money. It's a mockery of the term in my opinion.
$5.6M is just on a whole separate level though. Speechless.
If you want services and products to compete with private offerings you need talented and competent people who could otherwise work in a for profit business and get a typical salary for that position.
Unfortunately 340k is basically upper middle class household in coastal cities. Mozilla HQ is in Mountain View, the heart of Silicon Valley.
Try buying even a fixer upper is the South Bay and raising two kids on less 300k in Silicon Valley. I’m making close to 200k in the Bay Area and feel like I have no money for extras like home improvements, no kids, 20 year old car, travel on a tight budget once a year for a week or so, and still behind on my retirement goals.
Rent is like 5k for a studio. Mortgage is like 8-9k for after taxes and interest for a fixer upper. Feels like having a semi nice house and a couple kids in decent school is for people making 600k+ per household.
Mozilla HQ is in Mountain View, the heart of Silicon Valley.
They could move. Bringing jobs to a more deprived area is the sort of thing a charity is supposed to do.
That is insane. What a waste of money, driving up local inflation like that.
I assume that on the IRS returns form for Mozilla Foundation, the "related organization" that the CEO of Mozilla Corporation gets 5+ million from is probably Mozilla Corporation. But I don't know.
Thank the gods.
Why
She presided over a massively shrinking market share of Firefox, adding proprietary bloat like pocket, wasted huge amounts of effort on weird shit like Mozilla's own half baked metaverse, while quadrupling her own salary. The kind of stuff you expect from a lawyer.
The entire board needs to be replaced with people that actually know how to program.
thank you. I asked a few people and no one had any answers.
I don't know how Mitchelle Baker was so I won't comment on her performance, but I hope this change of direction will lead Mozilla to a brighter future, and a more privacy-focused web for all of us.
First good news from Mozilla since at least a couple of years.
the thunderbird rewrite, the acquisition of k-9, the integration of outlook, the launch of mozilla.social, and saving thunderbird settings on the cloud (formerly firefox account, now mozilla account) are all things happening in the last year.
i think mozilla has been kickin ass.
You're talking about Thunderbird, a project they basically abandoned to the community. Thunderbird survives in spite of Mozilla, not because of it. Meanwhile their main product Firefox is still bleeding users down into the single digit percentages while receiving half a billion a year from Google. It takes a lot of skill to run such a company so deep into the ground.
Commitment to Manifest V2
Opening up the Android app to support all desktop extensions
Working on local 'AI' integration that doesn't send data to Mozilla
Sure, some people are against that last one, but I'm of the opinion that if AI does exist in a browser (and the market seems to be deciding that it should be) then this is how it should be done.
Mozilla isn't committing to manifest V2, they're just making changes to V3 that are different than what's specified for the sake of compatibility with what people want. They still intend on migration.
Also, microsoft edge is getting extensions as well real soon
Finally, while this is a more personal opinion, the AI integrations that Mozilla has been working on (including some of the work on large language models) is isn't particularly contributive to the Mozilla manifesto and doesn't have much to do with the web itself. It's simply seeking something out because of hype
Also, microsoft edge is getting extensions as well real soon
What's your point?
They also bought Fakespot.
i just dont understand people who only have criticisms of them. no one is perfect but its not as though they only do bad things.
Isn't Thunderbird developed externally and not a Mozilla product? It appears so, from Wikipedia. Same thus for K9. OTOH, I blocked mozilla.social and obviously didn't want anything to do with Mozilla, so I also deleted my Mozilla accoubt in 2021. As far I am concerned, they could disappear tomorrow and my life would change exactly 0. I'm only happy that the incompetent CEO is gone. She was able to destroy Firefox.
i quite like mozilla. can you explain why you dont?
No, sorry, I won't. A lot of Mozilla's fans would reply trying to convince me I'm wrong or just insulting me (it already happened). I'm not interested in engaging on this topic.
It would have been better to simply not reply, rather than this woe-is-me persecution complex thing.
If you aren't interested in engaging on this topic then why not delete your comments on this topic and stop replying on this topic. Your comment's logic is ridiculous.
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This feels like shuffling deck chairs on the titanic.
A board member and the CEO swap roles.... The core leadership group remains intact
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