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[-] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 46 points 10 months ago

🍻here’s to all the developers out there who makes sure there site works great not only with Firefox, but also with ublock origin and piholes!

It is always shocking to me how many sites or apps completely fail to load if you dare block google analytics!

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

I don't know, works on my browser.

-Devs, probably.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

"We're a very inaccessible and hostile webpage. Turn back now."

[-] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Abandon all hope ye who enter here

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As if they needed to check for ""compatibility"" at all - just let the users try their makeshift coded-in-a-weekend browsers, or their 2008 version of IE.

The better question is why some websites even bother checking for the browser when the vast majority of people uses mainstream options that follow web standards and self-update.

Checking the browser version kind of made sense 15 years ago when updating the browser depended on the user's awareness and willingness of doing so, and the lack of standards across browsers was blatant. Nowadays that's pretty much useless. The maximum these sites should be doing is displaying a banner letting the user know their browser might be incompatible (because it's likely not in a way that prevents usage), then fuck off.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I had a client once who used to be obsessed with this. By his logic, if a potential customer visited the website and had a bad experience because the site didn't work properly in their browser, they'd think the company was unprofessional and wouldn't come into the store and we'd lose them as a customer forever. Analytics showed that 99+% of people would visit in one of the big three, and he wouldn't pay for someone to test the site on the less popular browsers, instead he insisted on fingerprinting logic that broke all the time and probably caused more bounces than any possible rendering quirks from niche mobile browsers would have caused

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's ridiculous some people even consider blocking a browser completely and having a near 100% chance of turning away the customer that uses it instead of just letting the user browse and have a significant chance of nothing bad happening.

People are not going to change browsers to visit this website unless they absolutely have to - in which case they'll hate this company for it.

[-] BetterDev@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

Oh my god, you get it. Thank you for your continued existence. Keep going!

[-] dan@upvote.au 4 points 10 months ago

Checking the browser almost never makes sense these days.

Sites should be using feature detection instead. Rather than checking the browser version, instead check if the browser supports the features they require.

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[-] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Time for OP to install a User Agent Switcher plugin

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[-] DesertMagma@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Well good thing my employer runs a script every 15 min to set the default browser to Edge.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

run a script to set the default browser back to chrome just after it changes, using some timer estimation magic also... try taskkill

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They probably get better metrics off of you running corporate logins and edge. Edge is equivalent to Chrome It supports all the same plugins.

It's probably just secops picking the low hanging fruit dissuade you subverting network security.

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[-] mac@infosec.pub 3 points 10 months ago

Jeez, imagine.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago

If it's a website which only works with a specific browser, it's a shitsite.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

At that point it's not even a website. It's just content for the app. Calling it a website is like calling my Minecraft base a website.

[-] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

To avoid testing on other platforms. Money is limited.

[-] blahsay@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

This could be a 'works better on chrome popup'. Instead it's a hard block

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[-] iquanyin@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

cheap. easy to admin.

[-] AVeryCleverName@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

I wonder if it would work if you spoofed your user agent.

[-] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

it almost always does, lol

[-] arran4@aussie.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Limited time to build something so you have to pick based on a couple factors, often largest % of users.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/mobile/worldwide

According to this:

On the desktop, Firefox has about 6% marketshare, and Edge, the Windows default, about 11%.

On mobile, however, Firefox is at 0.5%, and Edge at 0.3%.

A lot of people only browse the Web on a mobile platform. And the ones using those tend to use the default browser bundled with their phone; if what they have out-of-box works, they're not going to install anything else. Apple bundles Safari, and Google bundles Chrome, so that's what gets used.

[-] SpaceXplorer_8042@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 months ago

That's why I started setting Firefox as the default browser on my family's phones. They were too annoyed by ads and almost got scammed once. With Firefox and uBlock Origin it's like magic for them. Plus they don't visit any non-mainstream websites so they'll never encounter such a screen.

A small step to a better web-browsing experience for all of us.

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Important to note as well that both Edge and Opera along with Chrome (and many other niche browsers) are based on Chromium, giving them an even bigger spread of users that are using the same browser from a compatability standpoint.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

The point of a commercial website is that it is accessible from everywhere at every time.

It does not make sense to exclude an entire customer base just because you don't want to support multiple platforms.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

If businesses were smart, yes. But they are, first and foremost, greedy.

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[-] shalva97@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

because it has more market share

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Weird, I see "You will need to use a different service/company"

[-] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Because they’re paid to.

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