547

Pope Francis: I don’t bless a ‘homosexual marriage.’ I bless two people who love each other. (www.americamagazine.org)

submitted 8 months ago by Stamau123@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

211 comments fedilink hide all child comments

VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- People who act shocked that a priest would bless a gay couple but have no problem with him blessing a crooked businessman are hypocrites, Pope Francis said.

“The most serious sins are those that are disguised with a more ‘angelic’ appearance. No one is scandalized if I give a blessing to an entrepreneur who perhaps exploits people, which is a very serious sin. Whereas they are scandalized if I give it to a homosexual -- this is hypocrisy,” he told the Italian magazine Credere.

The interview was scheduled for publication Feb. 8, but Vatican News reported on some of its content the day before when the magazine issued a press release about the interview.

top 50 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 105 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My family is super Catholic & conservative. They hate the Pope and it’s so weird - growing up in Catholic school, one good thing I’ll say is that we were educated in almost every aspect of that religion and its history.

So even though I can’t remember the last time I was in a church, I do remember shit like “the pope can talk to god”.

Now, of course it’s bullshit, but I have to assume that’s the premise we start from here. If so, shut the fuck up. He talks to god. End of story.

And somewhat related - they’re MAGA types. They like their dictators. Fuck off. This is what you get.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 52 points 8 months ago

Yeah, before my grandma passed, she was a devout roman catholic, and even earned some award for her service to the church (she still volunteered in her mid 90s)

But, when the pope was criticizing Trumps border concentration camps, she said, "The pope needs to mind his own business." It's wild.

She wasn't a Maga type, but she was absolutely a bigot and not a nice person.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

The only moral [disagreement with the Vatican] is my [disagreement with the Vatican].

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

That’s a bingo!

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago

I think that many of these types see Trump as God himself (or Jesus maybe) so his views outrank the pope. That's how much of an unhinged cult MAGA has become.

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The force that pulls a society over the edge into a realm where fascists can seize power is that comfortable feeling of deciding one person or ideology is right and then just turning off your brain, end of conversation. Exhaustion can recede into a comfortable finality.

It makes sense why someone would find that particular kind of hate blanket comfortable, but that doesn’t make it any less pathetic or disgusting.

load more comments (1 replies)

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 105 points 8 months ago

I don't like that popes exist. I'm pretty sure if we took proper care of all people, religion would poof away in short order. That said, if popes have to exist this guy is a wonderful Pope. He's not dismantling the place from the inside or anything but he is pushing them to be decent people. He's pushing them to make more sympathetic decisions. We just look at this more shocking public statements and go well f*** yeah why doesn't everybody say this, but for him in the position where he is he doesn't have to and it's kind of a big deal that he does.

[-] Enkrod@feddit.de 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He's still calling birth control "morally unacceptable", continuing the anti-condom and therefore pro-aids rhethoric of the church.

[-] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 13 points 8 months ago

I always assumed the no BC was because the church wants more members to grow up and hopefully tithe more. Either way the results being what they are and the church not using their position to inform and care for their people is a valid complaint.

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 103 points 8 months ago

A less hypocritical Catholic Church would be nice. I wish Francis luck, he’ll need it to push the right wing of the church to be less shitty.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

I'll take one that actually does something about it's pedo problem.

load more comments (24 replies)

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

They started the Church of England so that the king could get a divorce. Now they're probably gonna start the Church of New England to force their wives to stay with their toxic asses.

load more comments (8 replies)

load more comments (2 replies)

[-] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.world 94 points 8 months ago

I'm not a religious person, but I think some views in this thread are coming off a bit narcissistic and ignorant. Religion has been a large part of humanity for literally forever, and people can't expect it to just go away completely. People turn to religion for comfort, often when they won't receive it in other ways. There will always be someone in the world who needs religion, and we all need to coexist. The important thing here is he is attempting to drive his members to be empathetic and improve moral compass. Just be grateful for that at least. People expect too much.

[-] Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 24 points 8 months ago

you never would have heard this come from the church, let alone the Pope 20 years ago. I don't know why people can't be happy that at least one religion is at least trying to be relevant and adapt to the times, and be more tolerant and inclusive. can't say the same about every religion unfortunatly

load more comments (13 replies)

[-] uis@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

and people can't expect it to just go away completely.

At least 79% went away. Only 1% of my country's population visited churches for christmas. For 20% of people who claim to belive in something other than sky fossil I have no data.

load more comments (9 replies)

load more comments (14 replies)

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago

He's WRONG and should be PUNISHED!

-Christofacists who want their Religious Leaders to write the Laws.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 25 points 8 months ago

Based.

When even Pope, a person normally in charge of maintaining a rather conservative society, tells you so, you know it's time to act

load more comments (1 replies)

load more comments

this post was submitted on 09 Feb 2024

547 points (96.8% liked)

World News

38790 readers

2389 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.