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Debian nübs asking when Plasma 6 will hit their repos (lemmy.world)
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[-] ipacialsection@startrek.website 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you're using Debian stable, hopefully you fully expect and want not to get major software updates until long after they release, in exchange for a more predictable system.

I'm excited for Plasma 6 but I'm very willing to wait for it, and stick to 5.27 as a daily driver for the next year.

[-] bisby@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

They might include it. Or they might not. If they don't have time to test it, they just won't, and you may wind up with 5.27 for longer than just the next year if you're waiting for debian's stable repos.

debian's neovim is on version 0.7.2 (even in trixie/sid, you have to go to experimental to get to 0.9.5, which is the current). If there are any bugfixes between 0.7.2 and 0.9.5 that aren't security backported... too bad. You aren't getting it any time soon, because it's not landing in Trixie, and it's not guaranteed to land in whatever is after that either.

Debian's "stable" refers to "predictable" like you said. Which includes bugs being predictable. Not resolved. Predictable. And if you have a bug that crashes your system, that bug will stay there unless it's a "security" issue. Predictable crashing. NOT the "doesn't crash" that people seem to think "stable" means.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

I've never had a bug in Debian stable. Not a single one.

[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

I did. Something about the combination of Debian, KDE, Wayland and nvidia drivers made the system unstable.
After googling the issue for a bit, the consensus was that that just isn't a good combination.
So I switched distros and now everything works.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 23 points 10 months ago

In about 2 years. By that time it will actually be stable and pretty much bug free. For me Debian is the only distro that provides a reliable experience.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago

Until then, enjoy 5.27.x with unfixed bugs for 2 years ;D

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago

Noobs don't use Debian.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Can confirm, after 8 years of distro hopping i stopped at Debian, Debian is for home servers and tired ass mothafuckers

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I tried Debian for my very first Linux install very long ago. Its installer formatted my windows partition despite me explicitly telling it not to.

Never touched it after. Not out of resentment, but because I just don't need it for anything.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I mean, the point of Debian is stability. If I'm running Debian then I'm not even gonna want to try and install the thing until after I've seen 100 people use it. I don't think they'll be looking for it in repos.

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[-] neonred@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Debian sid user here. If it appears now or in two weeks in the repo does not change anything for me as I don't depend on the changes for my workflows. For Debian Stable I actually demand them to come much later, in a mostly bugfree version. What's the rush when it probably needs more field-testing?

[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

For Debian Stable, it should actually never come, cause what's the point of KDE on a server?

[-] megabat@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lol. My gaming PC runs Debian Bookworm and KDE.

[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 7 points 10 months ago

Lol. My server runs Arch Testing.

[-] megabat@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Nice! How many 9s you got on that?

[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

Like...probably 1.

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

... How many zeros preceed that 9?

[-] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~pls~ ~no~ ~bully~ ~;_;~

Edit: Actually my site is up about 99.9% of the time, and that's good enough cause all it currently serves is this pic:

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Least furry Arch user

[-] megabat@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh how quickly people forgot about Plasma 4. When a Debian stable is released with Plasma 6 then I'll know it's ready for me. I don't rush into major KDE releases anymore.

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

4 is two major versions back. For this statement to be fair, you should have evaluated it against 5. (Spoiler alert: that release was super smooth)

[-] megabat@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My point was more that it was a very rough release even for a .0 and the distros should have waited a bit longer before shipping it as a default. All said I <3 KDE and have been using it since 0.9.6 I think

[-] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

As said: yes, 4.0 wasn't ready. But 5.0 was, so I think it's fair to assume that they learned from their mistake and 6.0 is fine too.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 7 points 10 months ago

Haha those stupid idiots are big dumb for not knowing about the incredibly niche thing.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago

Debian repos moving slowly is niche?

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[-] mmababes@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't care about Plasma, I want Cosmic

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

It will get to Fedora eventually

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There is an atomic image ready ,it still uses GDM (display managers are more complex to implement than you think) and I have the feeling it cant be the latest stuff, because it feels very incomplete.

Things like a populated dock etc are all missing, its upstream COSMIC.

Also there is no SELinux support yet, you can run it in permissive mode and should get all the errors needed to create one.

Join the Matrix Chat to discuss Fedora Cosmic.

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