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[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 142 points 10 months ago

Another great example is "Chunk" from the Goonies (1985). He was considered so fat that it was comic relief. Now you can walk through any Middle School in the United States and find dozens, if not hundreds, of kids that are MUCH larger!

[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 134 points 10 months ago

I'm the flip side, Go back and watch Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Once you're done cringing at the racism, think about the fact that Harrison Ford went on an intense weightlifting program for that movie, and was considered the most shredded leading man in Hollywood at the time. Actors using steroids has become so common that it has also skewed our perception of a normal fit guy's body.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

IMO Harrison Ford looks pretty damn fit in that picture and I wouldn't bat an eye if he were in a super hero movie today. Like that's not a Thor body but there are many characters where that body would fit in just fine. I agree that movie bodies are not very attainable for most people with busy lives, but on the other hand, if you're playing a super hero you're not playing an average person. It would probably be weird to see an average body shape doing the impossible stunts you see in action movies.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Yea but also there's no reason for Superman or Thor to be tall and muscular. They're not strong because of their body.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

"Hollywood fat" has always been a thing, though.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 51 points 10 months ago

Yeah Hollywood ugly is a meme. Oh man she's so ugly... But she's like solidly at least an 8, just not wearing makeup and in unflattering clothes and lighting l

[-] OttoVonNoob@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

I'm learning alot about Hollywood weirdness this month. So many actors have giant heads and tiny bodies. That way emotion shows better on camera.

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[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee 93 points 10 months ago

It's very fucked up what people perceived has healthy now.

I've been in fairly decent shape my whole life but the amount of people, especially women, that tell me I'm too skinny and that I need to gain weight. Even when I'm actually closer to being overweight than underweight. Or how many times I seen someone point to someone on steroids or fat and say that they are healthy.

It's got to the point where kids need to be educated. I wouldn't even be against weighing them. If they obese then it's also child abuse and the parents fault.

People think now if you can see/feel ribs or have any muscle tone (while not being a body builder) it means you're underweight. That's how humans are meant to be built! Go look at hunter gathers tribes or any active person pre the 90's.

Shit even dogs are fat nowadays.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

Or how many times I seen someone point to someone on steroids ... and say that they are healthy.

Gym bros be like

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

Gym bros normally know who's on steroids.

I find it's normally girls that are like "just look at a chicken and walk past a gym once a week and you can have arms the size of your head"

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[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 90 points 10 months ago

Kinda wish gunny didn’t break him and turn him into the kingpin.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

First he had to be hollowed out and worn like an "Eggar suit" by a giant bug.

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago

Edgar Suit. The guy's name was Edgar, the bug wore his skin like a suit. Edgar Suit.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 38 points 10 months ago

But it is pronounced "eggar suit".

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

SHUGA

WATAH

Edit: aliens are Bostonian, confirmed

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[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 18 points 10 months ago

And become a serial killer with a vivid dream world including possibly some sort of demon. Took me a long time to figure out it was all the same actor. Well, however long is between fmj to kingpin role.

Vincent D'Onofrio is brilliant.

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago

But at this point in the film, hadn't he lost like 15+ pounds and also shouldn't soldiers be held to a slimmer standard than others? And yeah the movie was made a long time ago. Most people are actually fat now.

[-] Oderus@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

He did gain 70lbs for the role so technically he was fat, just not as fat as some people are today.

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[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 46 points 10 months ago

Remember when everybody got gaslit into thinking Gunny was great at his job

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago

I know nothing about his actual military career, but he was great at his job of acting in the role of Drill Sergeant.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

If I recall correctly, he got the job by scaring the shit out of Kubrick.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

He rattled off a nonstop stream of profanity and insults for like 10 min straight as a way of training / demo-ing to the actor. Kubrick thought he did a far better job and left him in the role. Much of his dialog was ad-libed.

The original DI ended up as the crazy guy shooting civilians from the helicopter. "You guys oughta do a story about me!"

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[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Shit, have you seen all those fatass larping gravy seals out there at right wing larps? Some of them are so fat on their rascals it's amazing they can even hold a gun and have enough strength to squeeze out a runny turd, let alone a trigger!

Sgt. Hartman would have a field day.

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Dude what about Chunk?

That kid was fat for his time.

Nowadays that’s practically median.

Even 10 years later, Heavyweights was literally about really fat kids. They aren’t really fat nowadays.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 40 points 10 months ago

Everyone back then was living on cocaine and cigarettes. That dude was just a little thicc is all.

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Born too late to die of consumption, born too early to be infused with microplastics, but born just in time to enjoy all the asbestos and cigarettes he could possibly want

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[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hell I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister

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[-] ZMonster@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's military standards and boot camp. It has literally nothing to do with perception. Look at drill for a fraction of a second while standing at attention and he will berate you endlessly for trying to suck him off with your eyes. Your bootlace is dragging because you're dumb. You're tired because you're weak. And you are the fattest motherfucker in this universe because you stood in front of the cake in the chow line for too long. It's not about perception. It's just basic. Even in active duty today, he would still be considered overweight, and even if he passed the PT test it wouldn't protect him from getting chaptered out for fitness.

6' 5", 200#, according to the Army, I was overweight by 15 lbs. I ran A group most mornings in PT (fastest, farthest runners), ran low 6 min miles, maxed situps and still had to wait 40 seconds for the test to end. Pushups were always low but fuck off, soy alto. I started lifting, gained 50 lbs, and my neck grew to 19"+ and all of the sudden I was "fit", even though I couldn't run A group anymore, couldn't break 7 min miles, and barely finished the situps in time. No improvement on pushups so don't stop fucking off. It's just military standards. It has literally nothing to do with perception. And people were fat before the 80s, JTFC did I just have to say that? Sure, there are more today, but it's not like Pvt Pyle was broadly considered obese by civilians at the time. The people ITT... 🙄

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 31 points 10 months ago

YOU ARE A DISGUSTING FAT BODY PRIVATE PYLE!

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 10 months ago

In Bridget Jones Diary, Renee Zellweger has fat jokes made about her the entire film (because to Richard Curtis, cruelty to fat people is comedy) but she's not even remotely fat.

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[-] daltotron@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It is now year-round bulking season, and I'm loving every minute of it, jerry.

Biggest difference between your conventional fat dude and a sumo wrestler is the nature of their fat deposits. Regular fat dudes, no exercise, have what is called "visceral fat", where the fat is beneath the skin, and exists in between the organs. Sumo wrestlers have subcutaneous fat deposits, just right beneath the skin, as a sort of layer between the organs and the skin. It truly matters less whether or not you're fat, and more whether or not you're active, and have a good dietary composition regardless of potential caloric excess.

The only major limitation on this that I might qualify is that overweight people will probably have to put more effort into flexibility and strength exercises, especially in their lower body, their ankles, their knees, for the same reason that extremely tall people tend to have similar injuries. There's also the problem that it tends to be harder to cut back later in life, and so you can kind of see a huge onset of lots of visceral fat if you keep up the same lifestyle choices while cutting back on the activity, or even keeping the same level of activity as your metabolism slows down, so that's something to also consider.

People also have made points about how the excess of simply carbohydrates, like high fructose corn syrup, and palm oil as a preservative in highly processed american foods, and food deserts, are contributing factors to why americans tend to be super fat. This is true. The other side of this coin also tends to be that american civic infrastructure doesn't tend to keep you as active as perhaps other countries might, so there are less opportunities to burn calories without making a kind of committed lifestyle choice centered around that.

In any case, I do find it really, sad, and funny also, that people tend to treat obesity as a kind of personal moral failing, rather than treating it like any other kind of public health problem, or epidemic. Reminds me of how they treated HIV.

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[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I think my kids are old enough to appreciate the jokes in Full Metal Jacket now. I got them to watch LOTR and now we started with The Hobbit. Star Wars next, but that's a tough one, since it seems old to them, but maybe I'll start with Rogue One since it's the best modern star wars movie.

[-] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 18 points 10 months ago

Why would you want to expose them to The Hobbit

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[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

They will like it 100x better when they watch it for the first time on their own in college with their friends

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[-] groet@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago

Honestly it might be the best Star wars movie, period. At least from todays perspective. The original trilogy was groundbreaking for their own time but haven't aged the best. As with many media, what was innovative 40 years ago is cliche and stale today.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago

The OT hasn’t aged well? Wat

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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago

I was watching Steve Mc Queen in The Getaway. When he takes his shirt off I think that this guy isn't very well built. At the time of that moive McQueen was one of the top action stars. A few days later I'm watching a show about an average cop, and when he takes off his shirt he looks like he's been working out every day.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Steroids are rampant in the movie industry these days.

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[-] Hobo@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I swear no one in this whole ass thread remembers John Candy or Chris Farley. There were plenty of fat dudes and dudettes back in the 80s and 90s. Yes Americans are getting fatter, but it's not nearly as profound as everyone is making it out to be. Trust me there were tons of fat motherfuckers running around back then too.

Sincerely a fat motherfucker.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/955031/adult-body-weight-average-us/

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