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Question: Alternative tax forums? (beehaw.org)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by furrowsofar@beehaw.org to c/finance@beehaw.org
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Any ideas for alternative US tax forums or discussion boards similar to say Reddit Tax? Ideas?

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[-] BarryZuckerkorn@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago

There's just not the critical mass of knowledgeable users for professions outside of programming on any Lemmy instance, from what I can tell.

I kept my reddit account for the lawyers subreddit and some of the others around the practice of law, because I like the community of people who are in the same career as I am. I also tried esq.social (mastodon, matrix, and Lemmy instance for lawyers), but basically only the matrix server gets anything close to a critical mass of user engagement.

I'm considering creating a new reddit account for sports discussion, too, because there just isn't anything like the NBA subreddit.

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

Yes. Medical, legal, tax are things hard to find outside of reddit. Just annoying to have to go back there.

Financial seems to be broad enough that there are other choices.

[-] debanqued@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For medical chatter I would look at mander.xyz, which is science focused.

For law it’s a bit of a ghost town, but at least there is a ghost town ready to host interested litigants→ links.esq.social

[-] debanqued@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

There is !personalfinance@sopuli.xyz, which would be somewhat related to personal tax. There is also a Lemmy instance dedicated to finance. I don’t recall it off the top of my head but the instance joined Cloudflare so I immediately abandoned it.

For the record, lemmy.ml is a terrible place to discuss tax or personal finance. The admins of that instance treat personal finance questions as spam and even go over the heads of moderators to censor such discussion because of their political baggage. IMO sopuli.xyz might be a good place to create an account and create finance communities.

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

Thanks. For finance, there is also https://www.bogleheads.org too. They have a web presence which I have not tried except for their wiki which can be useful. There subreddit was pretty reasonable so I assume their web forum would be too.

Not sure the other options.

[-] debanqued@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

I used the Bogleheads forum over 15 years ago. It eventually turned sour and I left.

One of my issues is that the banking and finance sector and consumers engaging in it are conservatives. So if you want to ask a question like “where can I find a relatively ethical bank/investment firm that does not invest in fossil fuels?” it’s alienating to right-wingers to consider ethics. They don’t see the ethical problems that plague the industry and at the same time they don’t recognize the concept of ethical consumption. They just expect everyone to look after number 1. Bogleheads had little tolerance for politics, which inherently forces a narrow discussion of what financial products bring what value to the selfish types of consumers who neglect ethics. They don’t want someone exposing JP Morgan’s investment in private prisons or fossil fuels, or even how JPM Chase has a sneaky anti-Tor policy to discover which of their customers use Tor. Bogleheads did not kill my account.. it was just that ethical topics either had crickets or hostility, and censorship. IIRC what ultimately drove me off was Bogleheads started blocking Tor or using Cloudflare or something that demonstrated disrespect for digital rights. But apparently they re-liberated their forums since it seems Tor is permitted again.

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

For what It is worth, it took a lot of years, but Vanguard now has a few social funds.

Tor. I wonder if that is a more fraud or trolling concern. Or maybe for financial houses more of a US law concern.

Also I can imagine that discussing specific investments is out of scope for Boggleheads as that philosophy is to buy the market. It is not a stock picking group.

[-] debanqued@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It’s not a topic issue. The discussions are largely around platforms and custodians. They bring lots of ethical problems. Anything on this page is relevant to personal finance:

https://git.disroot.org/cyberMonk/liberethos_paradigm/src/branch/master/usa_banks.md

If someone managing their personal finances wants to ask how to avoid the bad players and still achieve their goals, it’s relevant. But Bogleheads is not keen. I don’t recall the particulars (it was over a decade ago) but it wasn’t topic related. It was just a conservative moderator or crowd who don’t want ethics getting in their way or cluttering their view.

Tor. I wonder if that is a more fraud or trolling concern. Or maybe for financial houses more of a US law concern.

Certainly not a legal issue in the US. Tor works ATM on Bogleheads. Cloudflare is often chosen out of ignorance by admins who don’t even know what Tor is, or at least don’t know that most Tor traffic is legit. It’s usually a lazy move. I don’t recall the details about Boglehead’s tor hostility but they’re reachable over Tor right now.

[-] furrowsofar@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

IP blocking is a lazy move in general but it is common. Also lot of orgs like to use geoip to know where people are from. Probably observe ads too.

Tor and legal. Sure. But an org may both want to serve some regions because of their local laws. For financial institutions there are rules too.

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