The only true generational division is lead poisoning induced aggression Vs micro plastic induced sterility.

Yeah man I hear you on this. One of my younger coworkers was like "OK boomer" when I told him something, I was like "dude, we are ALL fucking Americans, cut that shit out." There was a brief moment of lucidity in his eyes, and then it died. I don't think I got through to him.

I wonder when I'll be regarded as a person/adult.

I like our European rules, when we are guaranteed PTO by law and employers would often force you to take it when you accumulated too much unused off days. The system cares even for those who would not care for themselves.

Unlimited PTO here, completely disagree.

I had so much more trouble at previous jobs getting approved for PTO, and it sucked ass trying to ration out my sick/vacation days to make sure I could be out and still get paid. Hell, I had to borrow against my next year's PTO at one job to be able to go on my honeymoon.

The current gig I'm at just wants to know when I'll be gone, and doesn't really comment on it. It's been great while dealing with kid/health issues and I've taken more PTO at this gig than I did at my previous couple gigs in 1/3 the time.

Even regular old finite PTO may not actually be yours depending on the state. My state does not require you to be paid out for it if you leave the job.

It's great - if you have a good boss.

Unlimited cons: need approval, don't get paid for unused time when you leave
Limited cons: needs approval, some places have use it or lose it policy for each year or you need to wait for days to accrue, limited sick days

Unlimited pros: unlimited, usually comes with unlimited sick days, don't have to worry about accruing days
Limited pros: get paid for unused days when you leave

I dunno, at my last job with unlimited PTO I took as much as I wanted. Obviously you want to make sure things can run without you, but that's manageable.

Unless you work someplace truly shitty that has unlimited PTO in name only, I think it's by and large how you approach it. Most people do themselves dirty with it for no real reason. For me, I generally just took time off for planned vacations and a couple other things, typically taking off 4-6 weeks a year, which worked for me and I found pretty reasonable. Was absolutely never an issue.

My current job accrues 18 days paid off over the year (increasing with time on the job to 24 or something like that), and it's mostly fine though honestly if I've used it all and I end up needing more time off, I'm probably just gonna take it off anyway. I'm still not 100% sure if it's gonna be enough since I'm taking a week off next week to pack up my house to move.

“Back in my day, we just bought a fancy red sports car for our mid-life crisis!”

My man. The vast majority of millenials are in their 30's. Not 40's. I get it, time flies, we're old... but not THAT old.

If you're buying tickets that far in advance, PTO is less of a request and more of "notifying you to fill those days".

Bet its like the Tide Pod thing. Like 4-5 people did it and media sprung on it like its the hip new dabpen vape skibidi fortnite trend or whatevet

To be fair, if you did you'd keep that shit to yourself. Same with all the people that work multiple remote Dev jobs.

You should call their bluff. I worked at a place like that and took a ton of PTO lol. It was fine. If they say you take too much then it's not unlimited so they aren't going to say anything because the other people still take less anyways.

I have “unlimited” with the handbook specifically saying we’re to take at least four weeks a year, and it’s the first time in my career I’ve actually been getting time off because of it. Everywhere non unlimited it was never actually approved and I’d get a lousy check every year for it. You know what’s way better than money? Time off.

If you and your coworkers aren’t using your benefit perhaps you all should discuss it and work out reasonable minimums you all expect to take and then take it. And don’t judge your coworkers for taking any of it.

I get 10 hours PTO every quarter (max is 80) I use every goddamm minute of it. I also get 3 weeks vacation which until they fucked us and made it recurring I am unable to use all 3 weeks by end of year. They also you can only take blocks of 4 hours at a time that also sucks.

They at least let us roll it over into the next year. So I will be holding up a shit ton so next year taking two vacations one in May and one in either in June or July then still have enough for October.

Fuck recurring vacation time it's bullshit.

Hey I'm not snitching.