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How American (lemmy.ml)
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[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 months ago

The box used to have the full lady on it, instead of just her top half. You could do this neat trick.

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

How do I add text in... nevermind, got it.

[-] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In high school, my friends & I got really stoned after our band performed one night.

We mocked up some NASA letterhead, pulled out the phone book, & proceeded to create dozens of signed & sealed official correspondence from the space agency.

Every letter read:

Dear Jerry,

You’ll never be an astronaut.

Love, NASA

…now I kinda want to do that with this butter box trick. Just randomly select a dozen or so mailing addresses & send them one of these with no other explanation.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago

It's kinda weird that soon there will be only white people on products and on the jerseys of sports teams.

Are we sure that we're happy about this outcome?

[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 45 points 7 months ago
[-] Liz@midwest.social 9 points 7 months ago

I'd root for them

[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

!shirtsthatgohard@lemmy.world

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

The Guardians statues in Cleveland that their baseball team is now named after look Caucasian to me. So he could be pointing at a Cleveland Guardians Jersey and it's essentially the same things.

There's also the Cavaliers, Celtics, the Fighting Irish, Canadiens, and many others in sports. The Fighting Irish seems to be perpetuating a negative stereotype. But none of these will be changed.

Then there's also names of groups like Pirates which could include other ethnicities but the logo shows a white person. There are many ethnicities that were pirates throughout history, but the Pittsburgh Pirate log shows a white guy.

So that photo may not be as shocking or offensive as you think it would be. If there were a team called the Caucasians it wouldn't actually offend anyone. Well I could foresee white supremacists taking a liking to a logo like that and that would be offensive. But not because of the logo itself but white supremacists ruining everything they associate themselves with. Kinda like Swastika was ruined as symbol.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against renaming sports teams and changing the labels on products and things like that. Just pointing out that the ultimate outcome is going to be a distinct lack diversity in these logos because the things that have white people representing it aren't changed but things that have non-white people are changed. People will still be cheering for the Celtics in the future. People in Cleveland will cheer for the Guardians (white people) and the Cavaliers (also white people) but they won't be cheering for Indians (because that's disrespectful). I guess if that's what we want it to be it's fine, but seems a little weird that sports fans will only ever be cheering for white people in the future.

[-] UntitledQuitting@reddthat.com 11 points 7 months ago

Farmer-Owned.

...ahem.

FARMER-OWNED.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 7 months ago
[-] psud@aussie.zone 28 points 7 months ago

Many native Americans have adopted the group name "Indian". You might not like it, but they do.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 4 points 7 months ago

Seems like a lot of people have opinions on what they’ve interpreted as my opinion 🤷‍♀️I’m not even American 😬

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 2 points 7 months ago

I don’t mean this to attack anyone that commented. Seems like I’ve sparked a good discussion. As an instance admin I can see who has voted on posts and literally no one voting on my comment left a reply :-)

[-] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 7 months ago

Sometimes people will down vote a comment because they agree with a contrary reply above it. I don't like the way people punish people for asking

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Sorry if I misinterpreted your question mark as indicating you questioned the use of the term ;)

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When the early European colonizers arrived in the Americas (Christopher Columbus and those who followed), they thought they had circumnavigated the globe and arrived in the lands east of India (which were referred to as East Indies at the time).

So, that's why they referred to the indigenous people of the Americas as "Indians" and the name stuck.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago
[-] davel@lemmy.ml 24 points 7 months ago

The ones that do, do; the ones that don’t, don’t.

[-] Technus@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah, even the actual sentiment of the video is more like, "it's not great but it's the name that stuck and there's solidarity behind it."

The problem, as always, is lumping people together when they didn't ask to be. Most of the newer, more "politically correct" terms are even more generic and alienating, and, once again, being forced on them from outside.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 11 points 7 months ago

Ehhhh my friends told me they prefer indigenous or native. To many, “Indian” is a slur.

[-] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a person by person thing and I suspect age plays a large part in feelings towards the term. In general I would say avoid the term unless it is requested.

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