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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

The centrists has their basic needs met and isn't part of a social group that is threatened so they see both as a waste of tax spending.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

"If we just improve the education system, racism will go away." - My centrist friend

Bro, no. Also, who the fuck do you think is trying to fund education? Assuming we even accept your premise.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

Education does help, or the right wouldn't be trying to gut it so hard. But it's not all we need

[-] geoff@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Implied by this: centrists see all this mainly as a financial matter.

[-] hglman@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Centrists are unwilling to accept change or inconvenience. This differs from conservatives who think things should go back to some sort of old way.

[-] rival@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago

@FlyingSquid In my humble experience and understanding 'centrism' has been always an euphemism for 'far right' for the "politically correct" miserable cowards...

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Undecided voters are the stupidest people on the face of the Earth.

[-] esc27@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe I’m the centrist in this scenario, but isn’t that just normal left? I’d expect far left to be like “we are going to exterminate all the rich then give their stuff to everyone else”

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[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It's funny to see people that have swallowed anti communist peograganda hook line and sinker flounder in here trying to discredit the far left.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

centrists are usually right wing wanting the votes/approval from left

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Well, it's hard to tell liberals and conservatives apart, mostly because liberalism isn't left wing, but actually slightly right from centre, and both liberalism and conservativism share some similarities.

This is what McCarthyism did. It's the great goal post mover.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Liberalism is solidly right of center, its Social Democracy that is slightly right of center. Conservativism is just fascism.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

CPAC organizers did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

How does that change anything? In the past they were willing to eject these people, but not this time.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

It doesn’t. I just found it funny they expected a comment. The news not calling this fascism is why it’s going to get worse.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I doubt they actually expected a comment. Reaching out for a comment is just part of what you do as a journalist.

[-] redfox@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

I used to think that the type of hatred displayed by the filth guy was a small backwards group ina larger whole, but I'm not seeing anyone else in the larger whole, who might be less ridiculous, saying anything about the fridges. It makes them all appear the same.

This is a basic example of issues caused by not policing extremist views within your own group, or a group being too big and not representing the majority of people's views.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

USA: we don't have a left. Democrats are at best center.

[-] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You don't have a right either though, at least not a right on the democratic spectrum.

All you've got are "unacceptable" and "fascism".

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago
[-] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

why do people say these thing when they know its not true

[-] adorable_yangire@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

i just try my best to think logically and realistically idc abt left or right opinions

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Thinking logically and realistically, without checking if left or right, inevitably leads to a leftist slant. There's nothing logical or realistic about right wing thought, that's why they usually suppress the scientific community and educational systems.

[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

It says something, that securing people's basic needs is considered "far" left.

[-] JustMy2c@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

The joke is this is a meme made by the far left.

In reality they overspend till the government is soooo weak that their little friends can steal and rob in each and every part of the local government, central government ans government companies.

At least that's how it goes in every single country in south America

Viva noboa Milei and bukele! Fck trump

Vote left in developed countries

Vote right in undeveloped countries

Unfortunately this is the way.

[-] JustMy2c@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

FAR LEFT IN SOUTH AMERICA : let's do deals with dictators and narco generals.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

Is that really 'far' left, though? Far left is, "let a handful of governors control everything, on behalf of communal ownership, and they will make sure everyone's needs are met fairly."

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think the use of "far left" in this meme is based on the labels that right wing media is pushing on the 'normal' left.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

That's not the far left, that's Capitalism. The Far Left is for democratic control of Production and working towards a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society via Worker Ownership, whether that be through a state or via Anarchism.

[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

I don't think far left implies statelessness. I know communist governments are not taken as an ideal picture of far left, but I thought far left politics still has state governorship over public ownership?

You say Worker Ownership, but I thought the thing about 'left' versus 'right' is a collective ownership (requiring presumably some manner of management) versus individual ownership (that permits capitalism if people have full freedom to trade).

[-] jlou@mastodon.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The left isn't necessarily opposed to ownership or freedom to trade. Nor is capitalism just freedom to trade. Capitalism is a set of exploitative property relations based on a fake contract (the employer-employee contract). In this contract, the legal responsibility for the entire result of production is assigned to the employer despite the workers' joint de facto responsibility for that result. This violates the basic tenet that legal and de facto responsibility match

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Far left: we're going to dress in all black and burn buildings down to protest racism of which many of the shops will be locally owned by people of color.

Far right: we're going to ravage the civil liberties of every group of people that aren't white religious old rich people and convince poor white people it's the patriotic thing to do.

Centrists: You're both fucked but one of you is less fucked I guess.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You’re both fucked but one of you is less fucked I guess.

Which one is that? Because moderates are outright refusing to compromise with leftists and progressives. Seems like they prefer fascists.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Left is in a pretty clear lead but you won't find me handing out fliers to spread the word. I'm just watching in paralyzed horror.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Maybe if you told moderates they need to start compromising with leftists and progressives a few might listen.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Based on the overwhelmingly negative response to the left being criticized I understand why many Centrists stay center. Going either direction just feels morally compromising. I'll still vote blue because I'm not insane but still, I'd never call myself Democrat.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Going either direction just feels morally compromising.

Supporting unions feels morally compromising? Refusing to send weapons to Israel feels morally compromising? Raising minimum wage feels morally compromising?

Get real.

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[-] chakan2@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

That's not why we are centrists...it might have more to due with our two choices of geriatric patients who are in a steep mental decline.

[-] ogmios@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Pretending that you don't favour certain groups over others is exactly why sane people don't take you seriously, regardless of what group you associate yourself with in an attempt to siphon off some legitimacy from others you don't actually have any real relation with.

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