I could buy a steam deck and a shitload of games on sale for that
That’s what I did when my PC died and I’d do it again given the choice
The last straw with consoles for me was when they all started charging money regularly just to play online multiplayer games.
My Steam Deck makes for a better console-like experience than any of the major consoles, and more. I have zero interest in going back to Sony or especially Nintendo's scams.
It blows my mind that the greatest trick Valve ever pulled was releasing a console that relies solely on backwards compatibility. There are zero games released for the steam deck.
To be fair, there was 1 game released directly for the Steam Deck; Aperture Desk Job.
Not only that, the Steam Deck actually has worse compatibility compared to a normal Windows PC, but the PC library is so extensive (and has so many emulators) that it doesn't matter. You still have access to more games than anyone on a normal console ever could, and you can play most singleplayer console games for free. I played Mario Odyssey all the way through on my PC and it ran great.
And even better: people not valve will actually go and work to make the games that aren't compatible working. For free.
I really wish they would release a new Steam Controller with the Deck's inputs.
They could have given us full backwards compatibility for that.
It would be an instant buy for me if it has full backwards compatibility, and I'd let them tack on another hundo for psp/vita games. That's basically what my Steam deck is. Every console emulated and PC games.
I love how Sony learned nothing from the PS3 launch price.
The launch PS3 was arguably Sony’s last great console (namely hardware backwards compatibility); I choose to die on this hill. 🫡
This bad boy can run so many PS2 games
Personally I decided about 6 years ago that I wouldn't buy another non-portable game console.
At this stage I just don't see any reason to drop $600+ on a console when I could put that $600~ towards upgrading my PC and get vastly more value for my money.
So as far as I'm concerned, the only consoles worth looking at at all right now at the Nintendo Switch, which I have and love, and the Steam Deck, which would offer me my PC gaming experience with something it lacks: portability.
Aside from that, I personally couldn't give 2 shits what's happening in the world of XBox or Playstation these days.
My Steam Deck has been my primary gaming device for about 2 years now. I absolutely love it. I’ve put a lot of my switch games on it for the convenience. I love my OLED switch though and I wish I had the OLED deck.
Still, it’s amazing enough that everything else I have is collecting dust. Been going through all the MegaMan games recently. I’m on 8 at the moment, the only one I never played in the main series.
Why would you need 3 switches when you could get a 1.5km line of loafs of bread with that money?
Do you get cheaper bread meters going for the cheaper mass produced loaves or by going for the longer length but more artisan breads like baguettes? Or maybe bread sticks?
Also, does anyone make linked bread (like sausages), to increase the speed one can deploy it in a straight line?
Honestly, Sony really sees itself as a premium(ish) brand that puts a heavy emphasis on novelty with a bit of sophistication thrown in. They also see Nintendo as a kid's toy company. So, the expense (and some of the scarcity) is entirely the point.
... can you actually make a PC with comparable performance these days? What does a console-level GPU cost these days?
You have to consider the versatility of a pc to truly compare them. The pc will have better alternative uses like web browsing, the pc is very easy and fairly cheap to increase storage, you may be able to upgrade just some RAM or GPU to keep up rather than buying a new console. You'll also have access to more games and more modding opourtunities. You can still use a controller on pc although you are often at a disadvantage in most FPS style games.
If you just want to game a console may be better or easier but overall a pc is usually the better investment in the long run.
You can still use a controller on pc although you are often at a disadvantage in most FPS style games.
The opposite is true these days. Many of the most popular FPS games like Call of Duty provide ~~aimbot~~ aim assist for controller players. So even PC players use controllers to get the aim assist, which puts them at a huge advantage over MnK players in close and mid range engagements.
If you game online that'll also be an extra $400+ over the life span of console. So the real question is can you build a PC for $1100+
Also the controllers break constantly and Sony just raised the price on those.
I checked Amazon a 3060 runs for under $300. A 3060 crushes any console:X
All on its own?
** Insert guy with stick do something meme **
Genuine question, could you make a PC that can perform as well as the PS5 Pro for $700?
I’ve built many computers for work over the years, but never my own gaming PC. I’m starting to plan one and I have no idea what I do and do not need, performance-wise. Like, I know I don’t need a 4090, but how cheap is too cheap to get good performance?
I think someone just did it in this thread, but something else to consider is that a PC usually enables you to buy games much more cheaply, multiplayer is not behind a subscription, the catalogue is basically infinite and it also enables so many other activities than just gaming.
Its about price to performance value. With same value you can build an equivalent PC. Which won't be banned and turned into a brick on their own whim. Many users very unjustly banned and were not able to connect to internet and game online. For the same price you could do more to with PC. Pros out weighs the cons
If you're willing to buy at least some PC parts used (like the GPU and maybe CPU) you could probably build a very competitive machine for the same price. Maybe even something better. With new parts probably not yet, necessarily. But of course, that depends a little on your local market. Here in Germany for example, a new RX 6800 (the equivalent GPU, according to IGN) alone would be roughly ⅔ of a PS5 Pro, while a used one is a little less than half the price. You probably need to wait a generation or so for new PC parts to be price competitive (as you do with almost every new console release).
However, if you already have an existing PC that you could upgrade (For example you have an earlier generation Ryzen processor and could upgrade to Ryzen 5000 with just a BIOS update and you could sell your current CPU and GPU to get some of your money back when buying something more powerful), you could likely easily beat it. That's the actual power of having a PC. You can stretch $700/800€ quite far, if you don't have to buy a new case, RAM, PSU, storage and/or motherboard.
The proper metric to plan around is longevity, unless you absolutely need performance now.
Performance and cost should be divided by time. Do you think that bit of hardware will be able to support software for the next two years, or five? That is one way to "compute" value, anyway.
A 4090 will eventually be outdated and unable to run new software, but that may not happen for a good number of years. If you want to get super deep, start crunching the numbers on power costs too. It may simply become too inefficient to run, eventually. (Hell, it's probably super inefficient now, actually.)
I almost always buy top-tier "last-gen" tech, right after "new-gen" is released when I am saving money. When I have the extra cash and it makes sense, top-tier may also be a good investment.
Be honest with yourself and determine what matters most to you and put your money there.
Did a quick one to mimic my current “console killer” pc that sits in my living room, runs Bazzite 6700 XT
This is new stuff, one of the benefits of PC gaming is that you can roll builds. So if you had a gaming pc in the last 5 years you're looking at a £450 upgrade, not a £700 one if you're a PS5 player. Or even hitting up used for things like cases etc
Using a bench of Horizon Zero Dawn for the GPU
2k bench taken from techspot
so doing what the PS5 pro will be and using an upscaller like FSR/DLSS to hit 4k
4K is in the 50s, but again scalers used brings it to 60.
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor | £87.70 @ NeoComputers |
| Motherboard | Biostar B450MHP Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | £50.99 @ Ebuyer |
| Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 CL16 Memory | £16.48 @ Amazon UK |
| Storage | Western Digital Blue SA510 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | £99.98 @ Amazon UK |
| Video Card | ASRock Radeon RX6700XT PGD 12GO Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card | £449.99 @ Amazon UK |
| Case | Thermaltake S100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case | £34.99 @ Scan.co.uk |
| Power Supply | MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | £42.99 @ Amazon UK |
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
| Total | £783.12 | |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-12 08:02 BST+0100 |
I have played GOW as well as a ton of other games this year at a resolution of 2K 144fps HDR on my machine without any issues or stutters. Also don't have to wait for a republish that I have to rebuy to enjoy older games at 4k 140hz currently playing AC4 and it looks amazing.
Please don't overpay for a 6700xt, get a 7800xt if you want to spend 450
28 Blåhajar + a Mini one.
Honestly don't know what they thought was going to happen. They've had some misfires lately with the PS5 Pro not being needed at all (the PS5 is a decent bit of kit, and certainly capable of handling everything this gen can throw at it), selling a remote access tablet/controller that doesn't connect to their own cloud service, and even they've stopped talking about Concord.
You can buy 4 used switches, chip them, and buy accessories for them with 700$ available
Buy 4 switches Cluster them into a super computer Emulate Ps5 … Profit!
Isn't the Switch $300? 🤔
I should have clarified lite but for formatting of the meme it's better to just put Switch.
Good sir, your Pikachu is too HD. See to it at once
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