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[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 107 points 1 month ago

Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn't matter what you run, just don't run Windows 11.

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago

windows 11 isn' all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

No one outside of tech communities does that

[-] MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 month ago

Even the people I know that are otherwise relatively tech savvy don't do this.

Not to say it's a good operating system, though.

[-] sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago

I would always start all conversations with my friends with "Hey Windows peasants!" If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 70 points 1 month ago

I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I'm that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I'm a vegan.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

Have you considered CrossFit?

[-] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

Maybe they cook only with an air fryer.

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[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

I swear Linux users are borderline jehovah's witnesses going door to door

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 40 points 1 month ago

hey!... We're clearly tech vegans

[-] Pilon23@feddit.dk 12 points 1 month ago

Isn't cruelty against animals - specifically one self - a key part of the Linux learning journey?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Cruelty to oneself is part of the Arch journey.

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[-] feannag@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Ah, but you see, we consented to the cruelty against ourselves.

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 month ago

Windows user:

*Complaining about ads on their desktop

Me, a linux enjoyer:

*inhales*

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.

Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren't for normal people.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

I use EndeavorOS which draws from Arch repositories including AUR. I've never once had to manually add a repository.

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not knocking you but there is also a reason the "I use Arch memes" exist.

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[-] renzev@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago
[-] C126@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

are those real? I don't believe anyone ever said "it's like linux but it works."

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

it does work though, on windows i can see ads and intrusive crap all the time. Linux distros don't bother you at all, it's like linux is not even trying at this point.

[-] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

This makes me want to make a Linux addon just for ads

Like make it entirely transparent Download this is you miss having ads lol

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

don't forget to activate your linux distro

https://github.com/MrGlockenspiel/activate-linux

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I'm going to argue that it's very unlikely any of those people are friends or colleagues. It didn't ask if you recommend Windows on social media or forums.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago
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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 month ago

well duh. windows is the default everyone uses, no one needs to recommend it.

linux on the other hand is an obscure choice that may be better for that use case and may not be known.

I've been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about it😭😭

[-] ugh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago
  1. Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.

  2. Windows hogs resources. If you don't shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.

  3. Windows is full of ads.

  4. The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it's a bonus.

  5. Linux is free.

  6. Linux doesn't force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.

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[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

There are political, practical and aesthetic reasons to choose GNU/Linux as an operating system.

Political Reasons

The Linux kernel, various components from GNU, a large part of the software library etc. are released under Copyleft licenses such as the GNU Public License (GPL), which cannot be revoked. This prevents a lot of evil shit the corporate world likes to do with software. It also menas it can't be taken away; My license to copy, examine, modify and redistribute the Linux source code is irrevocable.

The kernel and much of what goes into a Linux OS these days are largely developed by larger corporations (Red Hat is now owned by IBM) but a lot of the app ecosystem is community driven. A lot of applications in the Linux ecosystem exist because someone wanted the tool to exist, not because someone begrudgingly accomplished something to increase shareholder value.

Practical Reasons

The vast majority of Linux distros are provided free of charge.

The majority of Linux distros are lighter on system resources than Windows; Windows' system requirements have forced a lot of perfectly functional hardware into retirement where they run just fine with Linux.

With a few notable exceptions the Linux ecosystem is free of the ads and spyware built into Windows these days.

Microsoft has a habit of rearranging their UI kind of for the hell of it, meaning constant retraining for users. In the Linux ecosystem, only Gnome is in the habit of making drastic unasked for design changes, and it's very much not a user's only choice.

Microsoft has a lot of monetary incentives to be user hostile. Not a lot of people use the Microsoft Store to search for software because much of the software the userbase wants competes with a Microsoft product, so they aren't found in the store. For example, Edge is the only web browser found in the Microsoft Store. Microsoft will not distribute a product that competes with one of their own. A typical package manager on Linux is full of actual useful software and is the preferred way of managing software on Linux. In fact, Windows is basically the only platform that hasn't managed to make a package manager or app store the default way of handling software.

Microsoft has been eroding the end user's ability to control or even own their devices. Linux does not become unusable for several minutes due to updates the way Windows does. Linux doesn't routinely take away features the way Windows has been doing lately.

Aesthetic Reasons

Windows is becoming less customizable as time goes on. Linux is only getting more impressive. It's not difficult to make the experience YOU want on Linux. Windows doesn't let you put the Taskbar on the side of the screen anymore. Get a load of this, I'm using Fedora KDE right now. By default there's a thing that works very much like the Start button on Windows; icon in the lower-left corner that pops up a menu from which to launch applications. I can right click that, click "Show Alternatives" and I can have a full screen thing similar to the MacOS launcher, a smaller cascading menu type thing that works like the Windows 85 Start menu, or by default a two-pane thing that's more typical of Linux systems. It's just so much more flexible.

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[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 15 points 1 month ago

Lemmy generally attracts the same kind of person that would also use Linux. Both of them are open source and community driven alternatives to software otherwise provided by large corporations and milked for every last cent. Both of them require just a bit more knowledge in order to comfortably use them. Linux with all the distro's and desktop environments, Lemmy with all the instances and apps/front-ends. We're very much a bubble here.

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[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

Everything is free and 100% customizable if you want to put a little bit of effort in (I'm sure this varies wildly depending on technical abilities).

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[-] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

My workplace has this common braindead policy where we have to change our passwords every 3 months. So every time I change it, Microsoft page asks me, “HOW WAS IT?”

Like it wasn't annoying enough.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never understood the purpose of this.

Unless you are REAL stupid levels of lucky to have one of the mandatory password changes the day after a compromise that you werent aware of, all mandatory regular password changes do is make people use less secure passwords.

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Best use of that image I've ever seen

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

If we claim we are recommending distros do we escape on a technicality?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This meme is older than Windows 11

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[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 month ago

After the latest bullshit from Microsoft I would make absolutely sure to recommend literally anything but Windows to everyone that talks to me.

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[-] EherNicht@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

If you are cross-posting please mark it as such. My poor communist in c/memes.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Now that I think about it, that original meme was not true either. My friends always argued about windows vs. Mac, and continued to Android vs. iPhone

Like, people talk about OSes in general conversation

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

You people are coordinated in your recommendations. You are more efficient than the KGB

[-] felsiq@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

It might look like that when the topic is Linux vs windows, but if you ever wanna see that coordination fall apart just ask “which distro?”

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