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IDF: Whoops, tee hee.

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[-] npz@lemm.ee 162 points 2 weeks ago

Well they're still blowing up kids with these things so idk if it's the most brilliant targeting technique

[-] Vent@lemm.ee 80 points 2 weeks ago

Compared to dumping white phosphorus over hospitals and refugee camps, killing 2 (?) children during an attack that targeted hundreds/thousands is many orders of magnitude more precise. I hate dead innocents as much as anyone, but you gotta admit the pagers were effective and included way less collateral damage than the methods Isreal has employed in recent history.

The point of the post isn't to praise the pagers attack. It's to point out that Isreal is capable of causing less collateral damage in Gaza but chooses not to.

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[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 89 points 2 weeks ago

kill individual fighters

They killed like 1 fighter in exchange for wounding a thousand civilians, including at least one little girl who died. The pager shit is every bit as indiscriminate as the bombing.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i think they killed like, 12 people, and injured somewhere between 1-2 thousand more, probably some civilians in there, but these are military pagers to my knowledge so it'd be weird for it to hurt a bunch of random people, but it's possible.

if you include the radio attack i think it's like another 40 dead, and like 500 injured? Don't quote me on it.

[-] sudo@programming.dev 24 points 2 weeks ago

Hezbollah was using commercial grade pagers because they're a militia. The purpose of pagers are to contact them when their off duty. Many of these pagers blew up in homes, grocery stores, and other public places. Many civilians were killed and most people injured were bystanders.

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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 85 points 2 weeks ago
[-] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 weeks ago

It took them years to prepare that operation. It was against Hezbollah, not Hamas, because they saw them as the bigger threat.

The war in Gazah is barbaric, but the sensible immediate alternative would have been a very targeted operation to find and rescue the hostages, not something like this.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago

The idf keep killing their hostages in what seem like very purposeful attempts to do so.

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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And it required Hezbollah to have no concept of logistic security. Maybe Hamas is not as amateurish as Hezbollah in that regard.

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[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 46 points 2 weeks ago

There is no accident.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Mossad: “Making 40,000 pagers full of C4 and then convincing everyone in Gaza that they’re hip in 2024 is not profitable! What are we, Apple?”

Also Mossad: “But what about Lebanon?”

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Who's confused? They wanted to do a genocide so now they're doing a genocide.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's more like, they keep doing the genocide.

[-] overt_mess@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

But how would they arbitrarily punish everyone without carpet bombing? It’s not like everyone has a pager.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

"we have infiltrate the supply chain of communication devices order by Hizbollah what should we do"

  • "put GPS tracker so we know where they are"
  • "we can listen to all their plans and communication"
  • "put a bomb inside ..."
[-] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

I am fully against this booby trapping war crime regime but the problem with your first options is that pagers don't transmit like phones do. That means there would be no way to remotely aquire the GPS or other saved data undetected.

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[-] kingshrubb@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

Terrorism is bad and we should condemn it. Unless it's done by the United States in which case we should call it "anti -communism or defending democracy". Or if it's done by Israel we can call it "self-defense".

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[-] Mordred_85@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Just wait the carpet bombing will arrive sooner or later.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hamas != Hisbollah

But I start to wonder if they Knew about the planed attacks and let them happen to start this massacre.

It feels like the all seeing eye of Mossad was ignored on purpose. I hope Netanjahus Name will be branded for ever. He deserves no good mention in History of humanity.

On the other side... humanity faces the biggest historic event ever and no one cares (climate change)

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[-] pyrflie@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Room had too be made. Same as what's happening in the West Bank right now. The Lebenon isn't an expansion target.

None of this should be a surprise to anyone.

[-] ChefKalash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, not every individual has a pager on them necessarily. Not that it's excused either way

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[-] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Whoa. Hey guys. New war crime just dropped.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Is lemmy having trouble telling the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah now?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 weeks ago

No? This is implying that Israel has had the technology to precisely target people for months but chooses to destroy a whole region instead went it came to Palestine.

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[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

no i think they're talking about it cuz its israel

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