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It wouldn't hurt to bring this up the next time someone tells you Trump is an anti-war candidate.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

likewise we should remove him from contention and worry about the rest later

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 11 hours ago

About right for the man who had to be told he couldn't nuke a hurricane.

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 71 points 18 hours ago

I know someone who was born in Palestine (but spent most of his life in the US) who will be voting for Trump because, and these are his words, “I just think he’ll be better”.

Not even worth having the convo.

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 4 points 7 hours ago

If his version of 'better' involves MOABs and a giant set of smoking craters in the Middle East, then yes. Trump was the one that launched all those tomahawks on that base and assassinated an Iranian general unprovoked, though, so we kind of already know his MO. In addition to dropping that MOAB in Afghanistan.

There's only one choice this fall, and it certainly isn't Trump.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

You know they have a big brain because of all the mental gymnastics they do all day, every day

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 24 points 17 hours ago

Lmao. Insanity. Man is hella hyped on Russian propaganda. Did he forget about Jerusalem?

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 25 points 15 hours ago

Ensuing global nuclear catastrophe? Don’t worry about it.

-Orange Dotard

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 75 points 19 hours ago

there are rooms full of rich men looking to start ww3 so they can profit from it. trump is just parroting their desires

the us military budget literally never gets lowered even when they ask for it. but education, healthcare, anything helping human beings is always on the chopping block... always be cut back.

[-] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 13 points 18 hours ago

I don't know about lowering military budget or education or healthcare budgets at all. The key seems to be the control what those funds are spent on, to funnel them to industries and beneficiaries who support the people who get voted into office.

I truly think the great majority of policy is set based on quid pro quo.

Even anti-abortion has many economical opportunities. Morning after pills will spike. Neighboring state abortion clinics will explode in business. Labor in areas where abortions by the poors is not available will see a growing demand in baby products and immediately and eventually a very low cost labor base to manufacture goods to sell elsewhere.

I do not believe politicians are dumb, on the contrary I think they have no sense of morality. The leadership of the party are vicious sociopathic megalomaniacs. They are experts at propaganda and manipulation via the media, where they work hand in hand with billionaire media owners.

Short and near term financial gains can buy you a ticket to salvation after the planet is ruined in 50-250 years. If they need to buy luxury proprety and loads of ~~slaves~~ servants to retain their standing and quality of life, they are going to do that. If they are afraid of foreign powers taking control they have no issues starting proxy wars via russia or israel so the american people can spend hundreds of billions of dollars funding the military industrial complex contracts that them and their buddies benefit from, meanwhile sending the young high potential competitors to their children or grandchildren off to die on the front line.

Anyway, the last thing they want to do is focus on taking care of the american people. IGMFY is the name of the game. The few rare exceptions like Bernie spin their wheels trying to effect real change and the majority of the other politicians try to stay out of the line of fire while promoting things that benefit themselves, typically only affecting them behind the scenes.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

If the Fallout TV show taught me anything, you cannot profit off of the apocalypse. That's literally antithetical to capitalism. That's why they disrespected the lore so much, right?

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 13 points 17 hours ago

history (aka, reality) proves war to be profitable.

the american economy is incredibly dependent on creating and selling human killing devices. just go read what happens every time they try and cut back on the military-industrial complex.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Proxy wars are profitable. Total war really isn't. Even in history for a war to be profitable, you have to be having the war outside your countries borders. Nukes aren't profitable, and never will be.

I hear what you are saying about the MIC. I also agree with Eisenhower when he said:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Ultimately there's no objective measure of whether "war is profitable". There's no objective definition of war. There's no objective measurement of the "sides" and their profit/loss, much less the nuances of who specifically profits or loses.

But total was is relatively profitable versus being destroyed. And it's absolutely profitable for a select group of people. Most often it's similar people on "both sides" that profit.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Profitable for a select group of people, who should be named, shamed, tarred and feathered.

I believe that if you were to do an economic analysis of the total P/L of the entirety of human conflict, the L column would overwhelmingly outweighs the P column, even leaving out all modern warfare, which just ramps up the L side. I say that because one of my econ professors did just that during a class. He published a paper about it, but I have no clue what it was called, it would have been somewhere between '96 and '98 that he published it.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 61 points 19 hours ago

Worry about the rest later when my bootlickers and I blame it all on democrats

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 16 hours ago

Do not follow the orange turds advice.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 4 points 16 hours ago

Is it possible to filter post titles that start "trump says"?

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 22 points 18 hours ago

He talked about using nukes before he got elected, people still voted for him. A trump voter isn't going to be swayed by logic or facts or ethics.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

He talked about using Nukes while in office as well. IIRC, "Fire and Fury," was the first threat to NK.

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

Wait, wasn't he the "for peace" candidate?

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 25 points 17 hours ago

He is the "I'll tell whatever lie might get people to clap and cheer" candidate.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 17 hours ago

That's what he claims.

He claims a lot of things.

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

"For Peace" for Americans, everyone else can bomb each other to death.

And by 'Americans', he only means those who support him. Those who don't get bombed, too.

[-] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

“Where’s the harm in that? I had an Uncle who was very good with the nuclear. One time, he dropped a nuclear bomb, jumped on top of the bomb, and then rode it down through the skies. One of the most beautiful scenes ever seen. Funny guy, my Uncle.” - added Donnie.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

"We don't have any evidence (other than Yemen and very public statements) that Donald will do that, therefore we must collectively throw our ballots in the garbage for some reason."

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