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submitted 18 hours ago by LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

"Found these in the Zaporizhzhya direction. The enemy is throwing chocolates with an explosive mechanism. Do not open them under any circumstances. Our guy was lucky that it did not detonate, otherwise he could have ended up crippled. I know guys whose fingers were torn off like that."

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[-] ghen@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 hours ago

Far more likely this is being prepared by Russians as they retreat in Kursk and blamed on Ukraine just in case any Russian civilians get hit. We know for a fact that Russia booby traps civilian areas which is a war crime. There have been zero cases of Ukraine doing this. So if a booby trap exists it should be assumed Russian.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 15 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

We're... supposed to believe Russia!? According to them, they still haven't violently invaded Ukraine, kidnapped children, or committed war crimes!

(To be clear, any war crimes need to be stopped, investigated, and prosecuted.)

EDIT: Wait, there's not even an article to look into sources? Just text and an image!? If this isn't my specific app not cross-linking properly, this post has to violate community rules, right? Or at least it should...

[-] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 hours ago

We're... supposed to believe Russia

No.

Wait, there’s not even an article to look into sources

I do not post link to pro-Russian sources. You can do a reverse image search, if you so wish.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

"Pro-Russian" sources? I think you misunderstand. I'm curious why there are no sources. Like, at all. Not just from you, but any that actually exist! I can't find anything. Here's a search that should be broad enough:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russia%20claim%20ukraine%20chocolate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m#sbfbu=1&pi=Russia%20claim%20ukraine%20chocolate

Adding "explosive" to the query doesn't yield any better results. We don't have to link propaganda, but if Russia is claiming this, there would be English-language articles about the claim, yes? Again, if anyone has any source, please post it... But no, "do your own research" isn't sufficient for a claim with literally nothing to back it up.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

You can start to track this down by reverse image searches if you are that curious. It's a crap story, so the actual source is going to be ambiguous.

This was the first I found, posted on the 4th, and I am not linking to it directly.

[-] tpihkal@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

You're not going to find anything if you're using Google for your searches.

Try changing your location with a VPN. Search using Yandex. Translate your search to Russian first. Etc.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl -3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

[-] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago

The sources are all Russian.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

...What sources? You act like language is a wall. Like there's no journalist in the world that speaks Russian. Information knows no borders.

This is the biggest global conflict right now, including Israel.

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee 38 points 17 hours ago

Ukrainians are accusing Russia of the same thing. Plus ya know... Russia is literally poisoning water supplies

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 19 points 14 hours ago

and executing prisoners of war

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago

And are constantly caught lying.

Wouldn’t Ukraine just drop bombs from drones like they’ve been doing?

[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 18 hours ago

That does seem like something that would violate some rules-of-war convention.

Booby-trapping something that might be mistaken by civilians as a legitimate humanitarian aid drop risks non-combatant casualties and makes it harder for actual aid operations to operate.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 36 points 18 hours ago

Ah, this reminds the time when cluster munitions were bright yellow, so you could spot them and stay away.

And food aid packages were bright yellow, so you could spot them and easily collect them.

Yeah...

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 13 hours ago
[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 13 hours ago

During the early occupation of Afghanistan after 2001. Here's a news article from 2003 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2912617.stm

Note that that wasn't on purpose.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 13 hours ago

Wow. I guess those two teams didn't talk often, which tracks.

Happy cake day!

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

That's true! If it happened. Does anyone have any source at all for this from any reputable news organization?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yup. I read the convention on mines recently in the wake of the pagers thing. Even if chocolate isn't humanitarian aid, portable booby trapped non-military items are forbidden if they self-trigger. (The pagers actually seem fine by the copy I read, because being remote-controlled makes them "other devices")

Edit: And also specifically food or drink.

[-] apotheotic@beehaw.org 15 points 17 hours ago

If it is something they're actually doing, I agree. But this image looks like a crafts project gone wrong. Are we supposed to believe that the bit a the bottom is like, high explosive or something and that tiny wire is the primer?

[-] EABOD25@lemm.ee -3 points 17 hours ago

Why would non-combatants be in the trenches?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 13 hours ago

It's an argument you could make, but there's already a convention against these specific types of weapon, even if you promise to be careful to clear them all when you're done.

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago

Wouldn't catch me dead with dark chocolate in my hand, or exploded all over me

[-] MercuryGenisus@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago

Mirror + bandaid + paperclip + packing tape = boom? It's like a bad 80s tv show.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

TIL Macguyver is a Ukrainian asset.

[-] PanoptiDon@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago

Come into my country, you get what you get.

[-] nuke@sh.itjust.works 38 points 18 hours ago

Willy Wonka sends his regards

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Explosives don't seem smart. Why didn't they poison the chocolate instead? The enemy opens the chocolate, sees nothing wrong with it, shares it with their mates, and then now you've got five casualties who are none the wiser. Is that against the rules of war or something?

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Is that against the rules of war or something?

Yes. Very much so. Just poison in general is a war crime, let alone hiding it in chocolate.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/fr/customary-ihl/v2/rule72

Article 23(a) of the 1899 Hague Regulations provides: “It is especially prohibited … to employ poison or poisoned arms.”

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Fuck the Kremlin. Broad hatred for the entire country will only drive the decent Russians into the Kremlin's ~~arms~~ tentacles

[-] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 20 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Why bother with chocolate at all? Just wrap c4 in a Freddo wrapper.

[-] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 19 points 18 hours ago

Thats at best a gps chip lol

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 13 hours ago

Now that would be smart and legal.

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 12 points 17 hours ago

I agree the round disc and deliberately folded wire screams something to do with RF, but a) how powered and for how long? and b) why a chocolate bar if so?

It’s not like they hid a transmitter inside something that wouldn’t be taken apart or eaten, this was going to get discovered. Sneak a transmitter inside a PKM or radio, then let it be “captured” by the Russians.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

a) how powered and for how long?

Might even be passive, a tuned resonator. Heck it could be a bug, IIRC ironically passive bugs are (age-old) soviet tech. Imagine sweeping the whole frequency spectrum for resonators with 50s tech they were a nightmare to screen for.

and b) why a chocolate bar if so?

Maybe the idea is to track people for some time to gather intelligence on trench operations? Most probably aren't going to eat the thing right away.

[-] frozenpopsicle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

The wire in the middle is bent and acts as a spring. The metal disk on top slaps the tan paper on bottom when the wrapper is removed. No power, all mechanical.

[-] 314@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Nice Halloween touch...victory to Ukraine. LOL, if vodka bottles were used...

Send more weapons! Allow use on military targets in russia!

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, this definitely looks like airdropped chocolate to me bro.

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