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[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 11 minutes ago

I feel Microsoft is in for a huge surprise when they end support for all versions of Windows except one that requires you to throw out your old hardware. At the same time, Linux is better than it’s ever been and is almost, if not just as easy to use as Windows. Not to mention, most work is done from a browser these days.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

There was official support for Windows 7?

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Only the embedded variety meant to run on machines like ATMs, POS systems and other long term support machines.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

What you mean ended? It was just released the other day...

[-] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago
[-] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago

Windows has been alternating between good and crap for decades. ME, crap. XP, good. Vista, crap. 7, good. 8/8.1, crap. 10, good…ish. 11, steaming feces. 12 will probably be at least half decent.

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 hours ago

I doubt that will be true anymore. 12 will probably have even more spyware and ads than 11.

[-] tb_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

I really ought to switch my main pc to Linux.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago

11 made me make that switch. My main gaming / media machine is still on W10 and will be until it dies. Then I'll finally invest in figuring out gaming on Linux.

But for day to day browsing and development. Ubuntu has been excellent and is much more snappy than windows. I also picked up a cheap ancient MacBook pro for interviews and it's a solid machine as well.

No regrets so far.

[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Fedora on kde is nice.

[-] podperson@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

Fake news. MS said that Win 10 was the last one they were going to make so all of those others you mentioned are obviously fake.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

I've had the opposite experience - 10 sucked, but I have no complaints about 11... Though it might make a difference that my experience with 10 was after my old (win7 vintage) laptop took the free update, while my 11 experience is based on a new laptop that came with it preinstalled...

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 59 points 6 hours ago

OK guys, guess it's time to upgrade to Windows 8. I bet it'll be great!

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

could give Linux a try. Its come along way, even if you're a gamer.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 2 points 1 hour ago

OK guys, time to upgrade to Redhat 6 from 1999. I bet it'll be great! It has Kernel 2.2, and I'm hearing good things about the upgrade to ipchains from ipfwadm!

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I thought those last two were Dopm cheat codes for a hot minute.

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[-] tlou3please@lemmy.world 67 points 7 hours ago
[-] Banichan@dormi.zone 22 points 6 hours ago

*Good night

[-] Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works 61 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

There's a pretty good amount of people still using it, it seems.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 77 points 6 hours ago

I feel pretty comfortable saying that was the last good one, perhaps the best one, and it’s been downhill ever since.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago

Yep, I've said this before.

Windows 7 was the last great OS by microsoft.

It was light enough to not be a bother on even used hardware.

It was exceedingly stable and didnt need regular reformat and reinstalls like all previous windows OS's.

Didnt need to be constantly rebooted every time you exited a big task like previous Windows.

and you were able to do pretty much anything on it easily and without much fuss.

and, outside of like driver installs, the OS pretty much stayed out of your way.

It was brilliant. It was the best.

It was the peak of the curve. 3.11/95/98/ME/NT/XP all built up to 7, and 8/10/11 are all falling further and further away from 7.

The only reason to get rid of windows 7 is that there was no further way to monetize it since it had pretty good market saturation. If it wasnt for that Win7 would probably be the default OS for another 10+ years.

[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

3.11/95/98/ME/NT/XP

How badly did Vista hurt you?

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 43 points 6 hours ago

It hasn't been steadily downhill. There was a plunge downwards with Windows 8, then 8.1 recovered a little and 10 more, before Windows 11 undid the gains.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 24 points 6 hours ago

Windows 7 recovered from the disaster of Vista. Windows XP recovered from Me. It has been a bumpy ride for a long time.

Windows 7 was just vista with dipping sauce.

By the time 7 came out Vista was fine. Vista was the usual bugs of a new OS, plus the new drivers which most manufactures decided to not do properly so they made Vista look much worse than it actually was. The much higher system requirements really didn't help.

If you bought a new machine with hardware that came out post Vista's launch you probably had a good experience with Vista. I personally had 0 issues with my machine in 2008.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Vista paved the way for Win7 by highlighting the abysmal driver and support issues. Which got significant work done on it so by the time Win 7 acme out things were in a good state.

Vista was, much like ME, was a decent OS hampered by its time and hardware, but have been meme'd into festering shitpiles.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 2 points 2 hours ago

And it was the OS that introduced UAC. Vista took a bullet for 7.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 3 points 3 hours ago

Vista shows how important the initial reputation is. Everybody had made up their mind to hate it, even if the hate wasn’t fully justified. There wasn’t much Microsoft could do about it, other than releasing Windows 7.

Windows 8 on the other hand was genuinely bad.

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[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Win 11 has as many wins as blunders

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Well, I used to be quite positive about Windows 11. The WSL thing is cool, being able to use bash and Linux tools. The hypervisor thing is cool, enabling fast virtual machines. And the styling is all round better than any previous Windows at least since Windows 7. But then I've had systems broken by updates more than once recently, everything feels slow, applications hang all the time, the Start menu still doesn't work, even opening File Explorer leaves me wondering whether it noticed my mouse click, I have to fight it to create a local user account instead of a Microsoft account, fight it to avoid unwanted tracking, fight it to stop the ads popping up in all kinds of corners by running a network-wide DNS filter which reports huge amounts of requests to Microsoft telemetry domains, fight it to make sure file don't end up in OneDrive, and it still can't handle USB sticks reliably, it still steals focus constantly from wherever I'm typing, there are far too many services eating up resources, and so on.

It's just constant low-level frustration that I just don't have with other operating systems, because Microsoft has cut out QA and spent years prioritizing marketing strategies, gimmicks and cosmetics instead of improving the things that matter to users.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 50 minutes ago

As far as the performance issues go, I've experienced a lot of those when I first upgraded from 10 to 11. After reinstalling though, the performance has been amazing.

I hate all of the constant advertising of MS products and services, especially in the case of Edge, because so many of those products are genuinely amazing, and people won't give them a chance because it's shoved down their throats.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

I agree that it gets bogged down and needs a reinstall sometimes. But after I recently installed it on a new machine that also has Linux, Windows 11 still feels comparatively slow. I get the impression that even out of the box it has too much baggage and unoptimized code. Edge is fast though, and a perfectly good browser. Edge even runs on Linux too, which is surprising.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

I use Windows a lot of the time, because I need to use several pieces of professional Windows software. But yes, I use Linux some of the time too, and I find it more relaxing.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 33 minutes ago

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed most of the time on the desktop, and some Debian and Ubuntu servers.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 5 hours ago

As long as recall is a thing I will never move to 11. I'll move to Linux.

I hate Microsuck for this. I just want to come home from work and have my PC work not have to play IT guy whenever Linux acts up. :(

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https://time.com/12854/microsoft-to-take-windows-xp-off-life-support-despite-its-29-market-share/

XP was a whopping 29% at EOL which is impressive to me that 7 is only 3%. But it makes sense that 10 has such a large market share since it was free and ran on (almost) everything that ran 7.

this is full EOL not like normal user EOL, normal user EOL ended in 2020.

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