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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 9 hours ago

Part of it is to elicit sympathy, but there is a legitimate loss of health that comes from a stressful ordeal like a trial.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 27 points 13 hours ago

But it does influence people, if only subconsciously.

The point of it isn't to say "look at this weak old man, he could never have committed these acts".

It's to hopefully sway a jury into thinking that they're so old they're not a threat, and maybe create a deadlock. Then, if that fails, then to hopefully garner a lighter sentence, for much the same reason, that they're no longer a threat.

It is bullshit, neither of the two you used as examples had any mobility issues before arrest, and any that they might have developed afterwards wood not be as severe as they made it look. Mind you, the stress, the physical demands of processing, the extra travel and such could cause someone to have extra problems. My crippled ass could barely walk to the car on my cane after the last time I got called for jury duty. There's a lot of walking around on concrete floors and sitting in horrible seats at courthouses. It'll fuck your back up.

But you aren't going from walking without a cane to needing a walker in the amount of time that passed. Not without a damn big reason.

But think about it, when you see some old dude hobbling along, is your first thought really going to be "I bet they're faking it"? Even if you know they are faking it, that image of a weak person plays on prejudices of thought that damn near everyone has. Look at the idiots that scream about "boomers" this and "boomers" that, like everyone over a certain age is flawed. We all have prejudices of thought, assumptions, and it's damn near impossible to completely control them and ignore what our eyes see.

You might achieve that when it's fresh in your mind, but the next time you go to the store and see some old lady on a cane, are you really going to be thinking about how she could be doing yoga and pulled a muscle; or are you going to be thinking about how that poor old lady is in rough shape because she's old, and that's all you can see until/unless you stop and think about it? Most people, they never see an old person as a threat.

Man, I barely have any gray in my beard, and I'm a fucking sasquatch. I've still got arms bigger than some people's thighs, and just by me using a cane (and I need one, if I want to not fall when my leg gives out), people react very different than when I'm leaned up against a wall with my cane strapped across my back. On cane, they just look away as fast as they can. With it not in use, I get suspicious looks, and adults hurrying away, and the occasional security person asking why I'm just standing against the wall.

I've seen it hundreds of times when I'm out with people from my disability support group. You let my buddy Spider get out of his scooter, and him being a small guy with a twisted spine on a cane is still not going to have people walking around him the way they do with the scooter. They'll give him more room, but not the same. The guys and gals that have less visible disabilities have their own issues with people treating them different when they're using a mobility aid compared to when they aren't.

It's a thing. We all build up these links in our heads, associations with things we've experienced that we use to evaluate new things. Ignoring those etched in patterns is hard, even when you're aware of it.

It's not going to work perfectly, or every time, but it does happen

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Whenever a politician is indicted for corruptions or other crimes in the Philippines they suddenly show up on a wheel chair and wearing a neck brace.

This was a former president being charged with plunder

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 21 points 14 hours ago

How they hell someone that supposedly fucked up manage to get into he pleather pants?

[-] PorradaVFR@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago

That's the argument as I understand it - they hope to generate sympathy from the public and I assume legal system…”looks at that frail, harmless old man”. It's a charade that I experienced while in a jury pool - defendant was in a wheelchair and looked like a weak, sick elderly man…accused of stabbing and nearly killing a much younger, healthy woman. I doubt she just stood there as he slowly rolled up.

[-] raef@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

It might work. Sentences can be subjective, and it probably isn't going to hurt. Why not try. Same reason people dress up for court: suit, tie—everything they wouldn't normally wear

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 10 points 13 hours ago

The same reason companies have marketing and PR: perception matters, a lot.

[-] zoostation@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Because they get away with their crimes for decades and then they're old by the time there's an attempt at accountability.

[-] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Remind me if I get pulled over to come out with an oxygen mask. And I will rent a wheelchair and just roll into court.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Presumably you are a pleb like the rest of us... this shit don't work for losers...

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 14 hours ago

This shit used to work when boomers' opinion was the only thing that mattered. Think of that meme of oprah kissing all of the notorious elite sex pests... Back in the day she could say, I know these men, they are fine and suburban trash Karen would LARP it🤡

Now non boomers seeing these parasites what what they are... Wouldn't piss on them if they were dying on fire.

Fuck 'em... Let them rot in prison.

[-] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Um don't know the Oprah reference can you link?

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 14 hours ago

Can't find the meme where she is kissing every second pest...

But this provides some context

https://www.ebony.com/seal-oprah-meme/

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Stress and anxiety often manifest physically, best-case-scenario is it's just the metaphysical weight of their wretched deeds literally destroying their bodies.

[-] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Yea but before going in they can walk right up with no canes or walkers. But then they get to trial its all pathetic looking.

this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
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