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[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Paradox's dlc policy is why I might buy the games, but rarely buy the dlc. I do enjoy the gameplay in them, I probably have something like 3k hours between CK2, CK3, EU4 and Stellaris.

[-] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 day ago

Tldr: They've been going through this cycle of consecutive huge successes and consecutive flops for decades but this is the worst series of flops in the company's history

My guess is because of shareholder pressure

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 16 hours ago

My guess is because of shareholder pressure

Of course, the lesson to be learned that no company ever learns: Don't go public. Don't ever go public!

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

The people who decide to go public are looking to cash out, and the future survival of the company is not a factor in the decision. The lesson is not learned because it's the corporate equivalent of starting a heroin addiction on purpose

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The issue with paradox's game design philosophy is what makes their dlc heavy approach so much more problematic.

From a design point a mentality of "always more stuff and always room for more stuff" isn't going to produce immediately compelling gameplay nor is it going to focus on stripping down fluff until that magic feeling of "the sum is greater than its parts" arises.

Paradox games are almost never more than a sum of their parts, and frequently customers are purposefully made to feel by paradox that their formerly complete game is lacking and needs the new dlc to actually be a coherent full experience.

From a design and profit standpoint, paradox is incapable of institutionally perceiving when a game design has justtt enough but not too much stuff for emergent and interesting gamestates to arise organically from the way stuff is put together (rather than from the mere presence of more stuff).

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Hearing that imperator Rome surpassed their expectations is surprising because they must have had extremely low expectations. That is my biggest gaming purchase regret of all time.

[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

It improved significantly since release, though.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago

I stopped buying their games ages ago because keeping up with DLCs was borderline work that somehow became more and more expensive. Devs need to learn to finish their games and move on to new ideas.

[-] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Paradox Interactive once encapsulated the best parts of PC gaming.

Ah yes ripping off people with incomplete games that have dozens of DLCs.

[-] essell@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

I loved how they did it with surviving Mars.

The games was excellent and each DLC actually added something new.

That I can get onboard with

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

They do the same with all games that I have from them. Crusader Kings, Stellaris, etc. The base game is always great on its own, then you have very cheap cosmetic DLC and more expensive content DLCs which add new mechanics and expand the game (they also always release a free update for everyone who owns the base game when a new DLC gets released. Oh, and all of their games are moldable, which means you could just implement the cosmetics (and even lots of the other parts of the DLCs via mods).

Paradox gets shit for their DLC model by people who either don't play their games, or by people who are so obsessed by them that they think you NEED a given DLC to play it (just because they know of a strategy with it).

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

They looked at EA's The Sims and thought: "I want to be like that!"

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