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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 186 points 2 days ago

Its only "small talk" if you dont actually care about what the other person says. If you are genuinely interested, then its just a conversation. Thats how i see it at least.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 61 points 2 days ago

Yeah, this. Talking small is faking interest. I'm not good at that. But when I actually care about the other person, "what have you been up to" is meaningful. Cause I actually wanna know.

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[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 274 points 2 days ago

Sometimes you don't need to fill the silence with sounds. I'd rather be in a relationship with someone that we can sit down and be quiet together

[-] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 days ago

Or you can use literal sounds instead of words. My spouse and I have this thing going on where we make this kind of squeak/baloon sound with our mouth which has the same effect as "hi, nice to see you".

[-] voracitude@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

Oh thank god my partner and I aren't the only ones. Don't get me wrong, we know and like that we're weird, but it's nice to have company.

[-] Kyouki@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

A few steps away from becoming furries.

/satire

[-] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 days ago

Hahahaha I love hearing about other people’s microcultures

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago

Imagine going through a marriage like "how about that weather"

Yeah, no wonder so many people get divorced...

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

“Oh yes hurricanes every where”

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[-] prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Actually I have this kind of conversations. I don't care so much about monkey problems

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, that's pretty much how it looks like for me

[-] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 202 points 2 days ago

The key to understanding is finishing the sentence.

"I hate small talk... with people I have no reason to talk to and don't care about."

I love my partner, and even when it's small talk I can listen all day, just to hear their voice and learn a little more about them, to feel closer to the person I married in many small ways.

But I don't care about what Jim at the laundry mat did last weekend, or which machine he thinks makes socks dry faster.

[-] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago

I kinda want to know about the sock thing.

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[-] yokonzo@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

It's not small talk if you love the other person

It certainly can be.

If I'm making smalltalk with my SO, it's because there's something more weighty I want to discuss, but I'm looking for a way to broach that topic in a better way. So regardless of how I feel about them, it's still an issue because it means I don't feel safe to attack the topic head-on.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 58 points 1 day ago

We will sit in comfortable silence together.

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[-] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 day ago

In my perspective (a lonely person generally accustomed with my loneliness), small talk doesn't seem to be the problem. The problem is the lack of people's interest in deep topics, such as the aforementioned nature of reality: people either don't have the needed patience, time, or both. People are so busy running through the survival game of the mundane existence that deep topics are left for their afterlives (if there's one), when human ideologies and need for survival cease to exist. Small talk is like "sorry I got no time to think about the ultimate question of life, universe and everything else, gotta go to my modern slavery where I'm not paid to think but to obey, bye!". Deep inside, seems like a fear of becoming lonely as those that, just like me, likes to think about the depths of the reality and breaking paradigms (for example, "shouldn't we discuss how existence is so fleetingly finite in the grand scheme of cosmos and how futile is to accumulate wealth and goods?" is a granted source of loneliness).

[-] InternetPerson@lemmings.world 7 points 1 day ago

The problem is the lack of people's interest in deep topics,

I'm not sure about that. I think small talk serves occasions where you might want to keep it polite as deeper topics tend to become emotionally loaded disputes.

For example, going to a bubble tea shop. Usually, you don't want to discuss the meaning of life with the shop keeper, but it may be a nice gesture to talk a bit about the small things in life. Small talk is a good way to share a pleasant conversation and appreciate each other.
Furthermore, small talk can serve as an opener to deeper topics if the occasion arises and everyone seems to be in the mood for such deeper topics.

Anyway, my wife and I are friends with the shop keeper now and we've talked about the weather, religions, vacations and how to raise children.

[-] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 9 points 1 day ago

There's someone out there that would love talking about that stuff with you if you haven't already found them just so you know! ❤️

Everyone's got a person with a similar wave length as long as they don't settle before then!

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[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

I'd like to have similar interactions with my significant other to the ones I have with my cats. You know, things like siting on the couch together... saying silly things in even sillier voices... staring into each other's eyes while blinking slowly... yelling at her to get down from the cupboard...

[-] kenjen@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 day ago

I think there's a misconception regarding what counts as small talk. "Bland conversation that has no real point but to escape silence" is small talk. Asking you how your day went because I care about you is not. "How's the weather?" is small talk. "How was your trip to the grocery?" is small talk. These are dumb things and, if your relationship can't bear the silence that would be interrupted because "The vegan sausages were on sale today", then it prolly doesn't need to exist.

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm not entirely sure what counts as small talk. When I think of it, it's usually conversation between strangers or acquaintances where neither party knows the safe topics, the topics to be avoided, or even the general preferences of the other. It's all testing water stuff.

I think that's what people actually mean when they say they hate small talk. They hate the awkwardness of not yet knowing enough about their interlocutor to know they won't accidentally upset anyone. Or they don't have the skill to navigate that social space to avoid negative consequences. It can feel downright dangerous in some circumstances.

And that's tough. Because the socialites think it's a skill issue, which it often is. And unfortunately if you don't learn that skill growing up, the social consequences of being bad at small talk only get bigger and more dangerous, which prevents folks from being able to practice freely.

I dunno. Just my $.02 I guess.

the social consequences of being bad at small talk only get bigger and more dangerous

Eh, I just went into a field largely dominated by introverts, which seems to have largely solved the problem.

I'm reasonably "good" at smalltalk, but I actively avoid situations where I need to use that skill.

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My wife is a VERY quiet person. She doesn't say a lot but when she does it's because she actually has something to say. This made me nervous when we were first dating but I've learned to embrace it. Silence is OK. She definitely talks more than she used to but we don't have to talk all the time. Sometimes she just looks at me and smiles without saying anything and in those moments I know that I am loved.

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago

Extrovert cannot comprehend being quiet.

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