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submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

"It's not like the government is forcing you to buy a car!"

If you live in a city with parking minimums, yes they fucking are.

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[-] amelia@feddit.org 67 points 4 days ago

As a European, this is the first time I ever heard about parking minimums. What a horrible concept.

[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago

From Germany: huh? Quite common around here and I am sure in other european countries as well, despite having different city building concepts than the US. Lately it is slowly being replaced by bike infrastructure demands (and there was always the public transport demands), but it still exists.

[-] amelia@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago

I'm from Germany too. Is it really?! I had never heard of that. It can't be a thing inside cities though, can it? I honestly can't even think of a place where it would make any sense. Surely shops that are located outside dense urban areas would try to make sure they have enough parking space anyway.

[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It is naturally very complicated in Germany, it is Germany after all. Some Bundesländer have globale Vorgaben, others leave it to the Kommunen. But it is normally part of a Bebauungsplan, also in cities. It is oftentimes a flexible concept though. Here a little start into the toppic.

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[-] raptore39@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago

I was reading about a study that showed how much the climate temperature would rise if every house had solar panels on their roof. I then immediately thought, hey now, what if we had less asphalt everywhere, would that not affect overall temperatures as well?

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

What was the conclusion? Asphalt shingles and slate shingles are already dark, so I'd imagine it would impact covered lighter roofing more.

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[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 139 points 4 days ago

One of the funniest things about American car culture is that Americans probably walk the same distance from their parking spot to the store as I walk from my home.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 91 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And they're walking in car infrastructure. Some of the most unpleasant, not made for humans places, not to mention dangerous. Compared to walking in what a city should feel like.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 121 points 4 days ago
[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 days ago

Actually you're right. Didn't see that at first.

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago

It still conveys the point pretty effectively regardless

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's not just oppression against "other forms of transport;" it's literally classist and (to the extent that race corresponds to class, which is a lot and on purpose) racist. A lot of these zoning laws about minimum parking requirements and minimum lot sizes date back to a time when United States government policy was explicitly designed to perpetuate segregation, and forcing every new parcel and development to be large and expensive enough to be unaffordable to most black people (because they were, and still are, poorer on average because of other institutional racism) was a part of that.

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[-] hobovision@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago

The horrible AI slop looks so bad if you look at it for longer than a second. Do better yall.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 30 points 4 days ago

Thing is: you don't need to look at it longer than a second to understand what is meant to be conveyed. So no, goal achieved, good use of resources instead of overspending on one useless metric (=making it realistic)

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I hate car dependence too but when I see things like this I wonder what your solution is for people like me who can't really walk much.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

uhh, mobility scooters and wheelchairs? i'm a bit confused as to how this isn't really easy to answer

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Having big parking lots for people to walk across has the same problem. If you can't walk far it's better to have density so you don't have to walk as far.

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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I don't see any comment asking to remove all cars from the roads. Only that viable alternatives to driving be made possible by sensible zoning instead of building everything solely to cater to cars.

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

What would your solution for a blind peron be in this car dependant world? Having multiple transportation options is the most fair system. Right now in many places the car is the only option.

[-] backgroundcow@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Would it work for you to drive to a larger parking garage (or even better, use public transport to a larger subway or bus station) and then use some form of battery operated micro-transport type vehicle fit for your type of limitation to move around the sidewalks/bike lanes in what can then be a more compact city center?

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