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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Is anyone really alarmed, this was inevitable.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 24 points 4 hours ago

Biden is trying really hard to lose the election for the democrats.

What blackmail does Netanyahu have on the guy? This is such a bad move.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

What blackmail does Netanyahu have on the guy?

Ask Epstein

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 hours ago

It's a numbers game. There are WAY more Jewish people in the US than there are Arabs (~7.5 vs 3.5 million, according to a quick Google search).

Strategically, those Jewish voters are also more likely to switch to a Republican vote than the Arabs, regardless. It would take 2 Arabs (or any other Democratic voter) sitting out to counter a single Democratic voter switching to a Republican vote.

Granted, none of this accounts for voter locations (because only the 7 swing states matter), voter enthusiasm, claims of national security, or (most importantly of all) ethics.

[-] Roldyclark@literature.cafe 10 points 1 hour ago

Except a lot of Jewish voters are anti Netanyahu and want a ceasefire too

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 minutes ago

I agree. That was an additional detail that I did not cover, as I wanted to keep it relatively simple. I expect that the anti-Netanyahu Jewish voters are unlikely to switch to voting Trump, given that the latter is firmly and openly pro-genocide.

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Not at the expense of democracy, at least I hope. There is no other option this year.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Everything can be justified in this way.

"Adolf Hitler identified he needed to blame all problems on Jews. And systematically put them in concentration camps. This was a political move necessary to advance his career and appeal to voters."

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 points 21 minutes ago

To be clear, at no point was I trying to justify any actions. My only goal was to explain the strategic path that would lead to it. And of course there are additional nuances, which I alluded to at the end.

Besides, a winning strategy is not an indicator of ethics.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago

The only strategy here is AIPAC campaign donations.

All the rest of what you said is BS

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 minutes ago

What, specifically, did I say that you disagree with?

[-] pound_heap@lemm.ee 98 points 7 hours ago

Oh come on, the header is a clickbait. There is a US military base in Israel already, it's been there for years. The article is about an announcement that they are sending another missile defense battery with personnel alongside

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

There are 100 more US soldiers deployed, aren't there? I'm not a US citizen, but I still wonder why more troops are needed to help Israel in an war of aggression that violates international law.

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[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Oh thank you

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago

In an alternative timeline, Biden finally grows a pair, cancels this and other weapon shipments and the election ends with a landslide.

It’s right there Joe, it would be a bigger power move than him stepping down.

[-] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago

Now why exactly are we doing that?

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 41 points 10 hours ago

So hold on, no troops in Ukraine, because they're not NATO, but troops in Israel no problem?

Or is it because US is scared shitless of Putin? Or is it because a lot of prople sympathise eith Putin?

Maybe there's no profit in aiding Ukraine?

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