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[-] daltotron@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah this place is definitely just like, getting canvassed hardcore. big rip

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 5 points 9 hours ago

If US stopped sending billions in weapons for Israel to kill whoever their current target is, that would be a huge blow to the whole 'conflict' (as in, a colonial genocide). Neither of the candidates are willing to do anything of the sort though - Kamala has pledged to continue supporting Israel while Trump has pledged to give all the support Israel needs to 'finish the job quickly'.

And while yes, there's nuance to be found like with literally everything in the world, it's not a reason to dismiss any criticisms thrown at your preferred candidate.

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[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 hours ago

"1000 year conflict"

Ok there's no way this 2 month old OP isn't a party propagandist or something with how they're again shitting on anyone to the left of [insert Dem figurehead for current year's election here]. Yeah man, I feel so heard now. Maybe if Harris appears on Oprah again and continues to talk about how she loves fracking and Republicans and wants to appoint them to her cabinet, that would totally be relatable enough for me to vote for her. You know what, that Cheney endorsement was so groundbreaking that I'll start door knocking while the administration keeps arming the American Empire's rabid dog in the Middle East while she continues building Trump's border wall. You won't get free healthcare or education or anything but with any luck, Yahoo might even drag us into a wider war while the Earth literally melts and your future prospects are stolen from you by the ruling classes. Tax dollars well spent MURICA BABY TWO REPUBLICAN PARTIES LETS GO. I can't wait to be told the same harm reduction garbage in 4 years when the Demcrats get pulled even more towards fascism while the empire declines.

I'm way too jaded by this lib shit to keep huffing the Dem prescribed copium you're on.

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 18 points 13 hours ago

You see, continuing to unconditionally support genocide is actually the best path towards not genocide and if you disagree you hate democracy

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[-] Juice@midwest.social 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Utterly breathtaking amount of historical confusion.

After WW1 the British, who were the major imperial colonial power at the time, though on a steep decline, had already decided that the strip of land we now know as Israel/Palestine was a strategic necessity in order to ensure a divided and weak middle eastern political arrangement, which could be exploited by mineral and oil investors. The old colonial system was clearly on the way out, and needed to be replaced by a system of international finance neocolonialism that came to prominence after WW2 with the Marshall Plan.

So they knew they couldn't just colonize Palestine, it was against their interests as the seat of international finance capital. This was outlined in broad strokes in the Balfour Declaration written by James Balfour sent to Lord Lionel Rothschild, later adopted with the League of Nations Mandate in 1921. So they backed the Zionist project and started encouraging Zionists to move to Palestine which had an existing Jewish population and whose government was generally tolerant of these Zionists who brought with them lots of foreign capital to invest. This plan continued until WW2 when the industrial economies of Europe, and especially Britain were utterly destroyed by the war. The USA, which had stayed out of the war as much as possible until the battle of Stalingrad that turned the tides against the Nazis, had wanted this since it could then establish itself as the world's industrial powerhouse and seat of neocolonial finance capital. After a period of mass industrialization, this is exactly what happened.

But of course the international finance capitalists, wherever they were stationed, had a plan in place for the region of Palestine; and a few years later, with backing of the international community, we have the tragedy of the Nakba.

100 years of conflict, engineered by the international ruling class of our current world. Obviously regional tensions existed, Muslim and Jewish tradition goes back a very long time and has occupied the same parts of the world for much of it, but the period of peace that existed in the region of Palestine was 500 years long before the British carved up the Ottoman empire for their own benefit.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Far Left Intellectual: The party is the politically conscious, advanced section of the class, it is its vanguard. Therefore, we must form a vanguard party that pursues the interests of the working class.

MAGA Conservative: This time Trump will fix all the problems.

Lemmy Liberal: If Harris loses, it is because Far Left Intellectuals didn't vote for her, after she did not sound enough like Donald Trump

[-] Zanudous@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago

The standard D strategy of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - let's whitewash anti-Trump neocons and bring in Hillary to advise on the campaign to win this election.

Lemmy libs seeing the polls - surprised picachu face it's all the leftist's fault!

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