Chinese security officials call for investigation of Intel CPUs for chip failures and security flaws, says chipmaker 'threatens national security' (www.tomshardware.com)

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 9 points 8 hours ago

Thought you guys already got your own chips.

[-] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

They have both shrimp and pork flavor.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 41 minutes ago

Yup

[-] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org 9 points 12 hours ago

I'll assume that Loongson are equally as backdoored, but by Chinese intelligence rather than US intelligence.

RISC-V and OpenPOWER are the last remaining non-user-hostile ISAs. That and possibly old x86.

[-] recursive_recursion@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

If Intel happens to potentially go under by losing China, the US government coming in would be convenient for both parties.

So Intel's in a funny position where they can actually pressure China for more economic incentives like subsidies or tax breaks

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 16 hours ago

How much did Intel spent on share buybacks?

What about R&D

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

They spent 16 billion dollars in R&D in 2023, which is a bit lower than the 17 billion in 2022, but still way higher than the 13 billion from 2019. In 2023 they distributed as dividends (might be wrong on the calculation here, but I think that this is the right number, 1 billion dollars)

[+] just_another_person@lemmy.world -6 points 18 hours ago

Lolwut

[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Look it up. The latest generation of Intel chips have incredibly egregious issues.

If you think you’re owning the Chinese by supporting Intel, you’re very misguided. Instead, you should be hoping for RISC-V to catch on because closed architectures are vastly more vulnerable to exploitation. They represent an unknown tech stack which is a no-no for anyone who actually values freedom, privacy, and liberty. They also cost tens of millions to create while RISC-V costs significantly less since it doesn’t require a company to buy a million dollar license to build on a closed architecture.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 12 points 8 hours ago

The architecture being open source or not has nothing to do with security. All high performance risc-v cpu designs are proprietary. The instruction set itself is open source, but beyond that you have as much visibility into the internals of the processor as you would with an Intel one. The only thing the license impacts is that you can legally make your own risc-v processor if you want, whereas tou can’t make your own x86 processor if you want (legally).

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Can an end-user request the source for a commercial RISC-V processor or is that just a licensing issue?

[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 1 points 3 hours ago

Thanks for setting me straight. I’ll still be pushing the idea of RISC-V.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Plus Intel supports Apartheid Israel. Both the company and their tech don't support freedom, privacy, or liberty

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

I don't think China does either, so kind of odd to bring that up.

[-] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago

Legitimately back when I chose my CPU and I was debating between the Intel i9 14900K and the AMD 7950x3D, my final decision to go with AMD came down to this because at the time their specs seemed almost identical. And based on the more recent news about the 14 series, I absolutely made the right decision! 🇵🇸

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

While i tend to prefer AMD i wouldn't put it past them to cut deals with israel if it meant huge profits for Ms Su.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

No, I get that. The statement from them makes it seem like retaliation for Huawei being banned in the US though. They have their own shitty x86 chips they apparently don't seem psyched to use instead as well.

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