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Much credit to this post.

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[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

excellent post 🫡

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

how many felonies did she commit?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

Its not illegal to disproportionately imprison black people for minor drug offenses in the USA, just like slavery was and remains very legal there.

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[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Well worth it to actually click through and read some of the specific articles on topics of interest. The descriptions are not all accurate.

[-] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 10 points 2 days ago

LMAO at the amount of "her entire career has been about building and filling internment camps, but at least she doesn't have the popular support for a soft coup!" in this thread.

[-] Mambert@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

A federal prosecutor has always dedicated her career to building "internment camps" but a literal coup that led to several deaths was "soft"?

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I can't tell which you're trying to do, apologize for maga chuds or kamala's abuse of black people and immigrants.

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[-] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

Several deaths:

six people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, three died of natural causes, and a police officer died after being assaulted by rioters.

I'll admit it may technically be a mischaracterization, but I don't think you understand the level of violence that is typical of "hard" coups.

[-] Mambert@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

I just disagree with softening the word by adding "soft" at the beginning. A soft coup is a coup. Date rape is still rape, candy-corn-murder is still murder. No need to add prefixes to try and categorize them, and artificially make some sort of hierarchy.

By naming it any less than a coup, and holding all coups to the same standard, it's an attempt to soften it, and I am against that.

[-] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

It's not a hierarchy per se so much as different categories/distinctions which I do think is useful. A serial killer is different than a hitman which is different than a soldier. I agree they are all functionally the same but they serve different purposes and have different characteristics which are important to keep in mind when talking about them.

That being said you've changed my mind on calling it a "soft" coup as it doesn't really accurately describe the differences I was trying to convey. "Incompetent, halfhearted, and poorly planned autocoup" would be more accurate but it's a mouthful and I don't know if that's the most useful distinction either.

Either case thanks for the pushback!

[-] Mambert@beehaw.org 2 points 22 hours ago

I definitely agree we have different names for different scenarios!

When a rich person is murdered, they're assassinated

When a religious figure does a magic trick, it's a miracle etc

[-] nick@midwest.social 9 points 2 days ago

Yes, she sucks in her own ways. But she’s not a fascist.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

A nationalist "tough on crime" anti-socialist with a deep appreciation for cops-for-capitalism pining for a return to "glory days" for a subset of residents while scapegoating others via racist and xenophobic policies? While pushing a genocide? Whose supporters can't even name the parts of her platform that appeal to them, instead trying to build a cult of personality and identify through who they reject?

To the extent anyone is fascist any longer she's right up there. But she uses rhetoric that is normalized for liberals and flies under the radar because the oppression she supports is sanitized and "politely" obfuscated.

[-] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

Do you consider Arabs to be inhuman?

If not, care to explain?

If so, I think I found the fascist.

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[-] BRINGit34@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 days ago

She is tho. Committing genocide is fascism

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Oh? I don't remember having the option of voting for her in the primary.

I wanted Biden. Still voting for him, he's the only one who can beat trump.

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[-] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago
[-] Mambert@beehaw.org 5 points 2 days ago

I don't see "attempted a coup when she lost an election and still denies losing to this day" so my mind is still set.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

The least you can do is join the Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) or Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO). Only through organization outside the electoral system does the Proletariat have any hope of steering the ship and seizing the reigns.

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