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[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Apparently the player base is happy with how things are and the only people complaining are doing from outside

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 58 minutes ago)

They aren't listening to their community is what. I play almost daily, and all they fucking talk about is 'wait for 4.0, it's going to be so much better!' But they refuse to fix major problems, performance sucks, and the recent 3.24.2 patch may or may not have borked the game in many ways.

They need to perfect the game that already exists, fix the issues and iron out the code before working on more fucking mechanics. I swear it's so bad. The article calls Chris a perfectionist, but that couldn't be furtfrom the truth, he is a dreamer, that says put this amazing thing in then forgets about it and moves on to the next thing overnight. The game will go nowhere until he's gone.

Edit: fixed a spelling error and added some basic formatting.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

pay to win pay to shit your pants pay to get ripped off

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

It was a scam then and it's still a scam now.

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 151 points 22 hours ago

$700 million is the estimated development cost of the Falcon Heavy.

Not a game, not a space simulation, but the actual Falcon Heavy rocket. A rocket that can actually go into space.

I know they're different things but I thought I'd leave this here to put things in perspective.

[-] TheYang@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

but only as in the modifications to Falcon 9 to make Falcon Heavy, right?

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 4 points 17 hours ago

I don't think so, SpaceX claimed (and NASA apparently verified) that the development costs for the Falcon 9 were $300 million. It's in the Wikipedia article, also here: https://newspaceeconomy.ca/2022/10/23/how-much-would-falcon-9-have-cost-if-it-was-developed-by-nasa/?amp=1

I was under the impression that the Falcon Heavy was a ground-up development. But in any case the Falcon 9 was cheaper, so go figure...

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 73 points 23 hours ago

All bs and scam atuff aside. This is what happens when you have a leader who never gets told no.
Dude never finished and feature krept freelancer too before Microsoft kicked him to the curb and finished it themselves.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 21 points 19 hours ago

Yep, feature creep is basically this entire dev cycle. Dude just keeps adding more and more and never really finishing anything. I grabbed the game on sale a few years ago, I have maybe 15 hours into it. It's got stuff to do, but not what I would expect from the money and time that's been spent on it.

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

At those time frames it's not just feature creep you have to worry about, but tech- and social creep as well. Think back what games were popular 12 years ago and what hardware we had. That's why usually in longterm, large scale projects you have a technological freeze, where you essentially ignore all progress made outside of your project for the sake of completion, which Star Citizen clearly hasn't done.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

Onebof the reasons it runs like shit with seemingly going random glitches
They changed engines 4 times.

Their code is held together like an ork gargant

[-] FancyLad@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

Vaporware until proven otherwise. I've given up on caring

[-] limitedduck@awful.systems 25 points 20 hours ago

Stat Citizen has its problems, but it's literally not vaporware since there's something available that you can download and play with.

[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It is the exact opposite of vapourware, even. They have over a thousand employees in multiple studios across the globe pushing out regular, massive updates.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Yeah, and it’s sad bro. I put about 900 hours into Elite: Dangerous, which I enjoyed a great deal, but it still left me longing for something with more depth. Back then I thought Star Citizen would be the next leap forward in my career as a space trucker who dabbles in bounty hunting and deep space exploration. I wanted to have games worthy of justifying a home cockpit setup, and now it seems like a lost cause.

I really hope someone picks up the torch. Even if it’s just Frontier making a generational leap with the Elite IP.

[-] subignition@fedia.io 23 points 1 day ago

Elite:Dangerous is sad for its own reasons, too, and I have a similar count of hours logged. Glacial pace of development and a lack of strong game design / sense for balance. I'm still stunned by how much of a selling point the background simulation was, and how limited it actually is in practice (it did get some love over the years, but far too little too late IMO.)

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

I really wanted to like it, but it just never scratched the itch when I played it. I love stuff like freespace 2, but E:D just never did it for me. Which sucks, because the community search thing sounded really fun at the time.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

It annoyingly needs a more complex HOTAS to properly play than most cheap entry-level ones have, while also not having ENOUGH complex need to justify me pulling my godamn keyboard over for

Literally the main reason I don't play it even though slapping my quest 2 on and space VR flying is fucking fun

[-] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 9 points 23 hours ago

you can try X4: Foundations ^^

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 23 hours ago

The controls in X4 are so horrible though.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

Good lord if that ain't the truth.

It has every opportunity to be good, but I can't even navigate the goddamn menus, let alone step into my ship.

Forget about using something other than a mouse and keyboard too, it just won't work.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, I never even bought it after reading the reviews about how janky it is, I want to use a HOTAS and rudder pedals and it doesn’t sound possible in X4

[-] arkthos@yiffit.net 2 points 20 hours ago

I play it with hotas and it works fine. You'll absolutely still want to keep a keyboard and mouse handy though because the RTS/management half of the game is really not that well controlled with a flight stick.

[-] PushButton@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Like any of these games, you need to change the key bindings.

I have a set that I use in all space sim. What I am trying to say is that the control can be the same as any other space sim.

This type of game might not be your kind of stuff.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

No, X is absolutely my type of game. Don't blame me for the horrible controls and menus, I didn't create that hot mess. It's also a well complained about part of the game.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

I couldn't find a way to bind a double press in X4, so hold RB and tap X for example. These combinations are essential because there is no other way to use a controller to perform all of the necessary controls. It's a shame because I would have invested a lot into the game if that was surmountable.

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[-] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 1 points 17 hours ago

I play with an HOTAS, so controls are the same as in Star Citizen for me

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[-] FancyLad@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

I remember how awesome Distant Worlds was, as a community event, and I wish I appreciated it more at the time. 65000 light years and back, I even bought a T-shirt and coin to commemorate the event lol o7

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

My big in game accomplishment was making it to SagA*, I spent some time in colonia and joined a discord of nerds that hung out there getting big exploration creds. I actually made the trek all the way back to the bubble after spending about a month in the galactic core. It was an epic adventure in my mind, but afterwards it was hard to be motivated for the engineering grind.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I haven't played E:D so I can't really make comparisons, but maybe X3/X4 can pique your interest?
I don't think they can justify a home cockpit setup, they're also kinda hard to get into (especially X3, you can't get far without a guide), but hey, there's a combined 1.5% chance that you haven't heard of them and that you'll enjoy at least one of them if you don't care much about graphics. Or voice acting. Or UI/UX.

[-] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

X3 is a fun game, with a very developed universe (you'll see factions conduct invasion in real-time as you do your own thing) with a wide variety of gameplay. The universe of X3 honestly makes Star Citizen seems like a theme park for children.

That being said it is extremely difficult to get into them both because there are so many gameplay options and the UI/UX is subpar (prepare to be constantly fiddling with menu and looking up how to execute a given course of action).

[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I sold my pledges off 9 years ago, the reason I even made a reddit account in the first place. Was getting disillusioned with it back then and I was super excited when I initially backed it, had a decent amount of ships in the hangar at the time, but felt like I was only ever going to see them in the hangar

[-] brsrklf@jlai.lu 50 points 1 day ago

Roberts is relatively well-known in and out of the Star Citizen community for being a perfectionist at the best times.

In a parallel universe, Roberts would have been allowed to continue working on Freelancer, and it would still be in development hell in 2024 with no end in sight.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 day ago

I imagine that the news headlines of the future will be:

12 Dyson Spheres and 700 Million Years Later, What's Going on With Star Citizen's Development?

[-] jagermo@feddit.org 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I backed it with about 60$ on the Kickstarter and have tried a few alphas. It's nice but unpolished. I don't care about the drama and by this point, if they release a game, I'll be happily surprised - and if not, meh.

[-] fulg@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Same for me, though I did splurge a bit ($150 I think) to get the game on a USB key shaped like one of the starships in the game. I will never get that USB key…

If they ever get done I will consider spending more time with it, I don’t really care for early access into an unfinished game.

I should have asked for a refund when we had the chance…

[-] jagermo@feddit.org 5 points 19 hours ago

Oh, wait, it was 30 usd. And i backed Shadowrun Online for 66, so Star Citizen might even be the better bet :)

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

It's* nice but unpolished.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 21 hours ago

Tits* nice but unpolished.

[-] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 20 hours ago

I prefer unpolished tits personally

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 15 points 23 hours ago

Why finish the game when you can sell "ships" for hundreds of dollars each?

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 13 points 20 hours ago

Try thousands. Most expensive ship runs you about 3000$

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 18 hours ago

Jesus. That's hilarious

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I get the emails all the time and have no idea what's going on.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 19 hours ago

I try to follow the emails also but its a hot mess. I can never understand any interesting developments. Its like reading AI jibberish.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Who tf is Erin Roberts?

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