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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 hour ago

12 years of early access. Thousand dollar DLC spaceships. Remaining players "happy".

This is as close to a cult as you will find in gaming.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Apparently the player base is happy with how things are and the only people complaining are doing from outside

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They aren't listening to their community is what. I play almost daily, and all they fucking talk about is 'wait for 4.0, it's going to be so much better!' But they refuse to fix major problems, performance sucks, and the recent 3.24.2 patch may or may not have borked the game in many ways.

They need to perfect the game that already exists, fix the issues and iron out the code before working on more fucking mechanics. I swear it's so bad. The article calls Chris a perfectionist, but that couldn't be furtfrom the truth, he is a dreamer, that says put this amazing thing in then forgets about it and moves on to the next thing overnight. The game will go nowhere until he's gone.

Edit: fixed a spelling error and added some basic formatting.

[-] dax@feddit.org 4 points 1 hour ago

The interesting part is, if they say the game is complete or at least in "1.0" shape, it will suddenly mean that people will judge it as a product and not just a vision. CIG won't call it finished as long as they possibly can.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 50 minutes ago

The game was supposed to be finished 6 years ago. 12 years in development for what we have now is a joke

[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Bug fixes don't bring in new whales with investment money, new silly features does.

The point ceased to be about making the game years ago and became about attracting new money because that's easy and making good games is hard.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

It was a scam then and it's still a scam now.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

pay to win pay to shit your pants pay to get ripped off

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 159 points 1 day ago

$700 million is the estimated development cost of the Falcon Heavy.

Not a game, not a space simulation, but the actual Falcon Heavy rocket. A rocket that can actually go into space.

I know they're different things but I thought I'd leave this here to put things in perspective.

[-] TheYang@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

but only as in the modifications to Falcon 9 to make Falcon Heavy, right?

[-] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 5 points 21 hours ago

I don't think so, SpaceX claimed (and NASA apparently verified) that the development costs for the Falcon 9 were $300 million. It's in the Wikipedia article, also here: https://newspaceeconomy.ca/2022/10/23/how-much-would-falcon-9-have-cost-if-it-was-developed-by-nasa/?amp=1

I was under the impression that the Falcon Heavy was a ground-up development. But in any case the Falcon 9 was cheaper, so go figure...

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 76 points 1 day ago

All bs and scam atuff aside. This is what happens when you have a leader who never gets told no.
Dude never finished and feature krept freelancer too before Microsoft kicked him to the curb and finished it themselves.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago

Yep, feature creep is basically this entire dev cycle. Dude just keeps adding more and more and never really finishing anything. I grabbed the game on sale a few years ago, I have maybe 15 hours into it. It's got stuff to do, but not what I would expect from the money and time that's been spent on it.

[-] LouNeko@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

At those time frames it's not just feature creep you have to worry about, but tech- and social creep as well. Think back what games were popular 12 years ago and what hardware we had. That's why usually in longterm, large scale projects you have a technological freeze, where you essentially ignore all progress made outside of your project for the sake of completion, which Star Citizen clearly hasn't done.

[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Onebof the reasons it runs like shit with seemingly going random glitches
They changed engines 4 times.

Their code is held together like an ork gargant

[-] FancyLad@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

Vaporware until proven otherwise. I've given up on caring

[-] limitedduck@awful.systems 27 points 23 hours ago

Stat Citizen has its problems, but it's literally not vaporware since there's something available that you can download and play with.

[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It is the exact opposite of vapourware, even. They have over a thousand employees in multiple studios across the globe pushing out regular, massive updates.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

Yeah, and it’s sad bro. I put about 900 hours into Elite: Dangerous, which I enjoyed a great deal, but it still left me longing for something with more depth. Back then I thought Star Citizen would be the next leap forward in my career as a space trucker who dabbles in bounty hunting and deep space exploration. I wanted to have games worthy of justifying a home cockpit setup, and now it seems like a lost cause.

I really hope someone picks up the torch. Even if it’s just Frontier making a generational leap with the Elite IP.

[-] subignition@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago

Elite:Dangerous is sad for its own reasons, too, and I have a similar count of hours logged. Glacial pace of development and a lack of strong game design / sense for balance. I'm still stunned by how much of a selling point the background simulation was, and how limited it actually is in practice (it did get some love over the years, but far too little too late IMO.)

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

I really wanted to like it, but it just never scratched the itch when I played it. I love stuff like freespace 2, but E:D just never did it for me. Which sucks, because the community search thing sounded really fun at the time.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago

It annoyingly needs a more complex HOTAS to properly play than most cheap entry-level ones have, while also not having ENOUGH complex need to justify me pulling my godamn keyboard over for

Literally the main reason I don't play it even though slapping my quest 2 on and space VR flying is fucking fun

[-] erin@lemmy.sidh.bzh 9 points 1 day ago

you can try X4: Foundations ^^

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

The controls in X4 are so horrible though.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Good lord if that ain't the truth.

It has every opportunity to be good, but I can't even navigate the goddamn menus, let alone step into my ship.

Forget about using something other than a mouse and keyboard too, it just won't work.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I never even bought it after reading the reviews about how janky it is, I want to use a HOTAS and rudder pedals and it doesn’t sound possible in X4

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[-] FancyLad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I remember how awesome Distant Worlds was, as a community event, and I wish I appreciated it more at the time. 65000 light years and back, I even bought a T-shirt and coin to commemorate the event lol o7

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

My big in game accomplishment was making it to SagA*, I spent some time in colonia and joined a discord of nerds that hung out there getting big exploration creds. I actually made the trek all the way back to the bubble after spending about a month in the galactic core. It was an epic adventure in my mind, but afterwards it was hard to be motivated for the engineering grind.

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[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I sold my pledges off 9 years ago, the reason I even made a reddit account in the first place. Was getting disillusioned with it back then and I was super excited when I initially backed it, had a decent amount of ships in the hangar at the time, but felt like I was only ever going to see them in the hangar

[-] brsrklf@jlai.lu 53 points 1 day ago

Roberts is relatively well-known in and out of the Star Citizen community for being a perfectionist at the best times.

In a parallel universe, Roberts would have been allowed to continue working on Freelancer, and it would still be in development hell in 2024 with no end in sight.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago

On the other hand, Starlancer is a perfectly contained game with great singleplayer gameplay, story, coop and a lot of attention to detail that shines and rewards good players for playing the game. So he can do stuff well, the correct environment needs to be there for it to happen though.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 48 points 1 day ago

I imagine that the news headlines of the future will be:

12 Dyson Spheres and 700 Million Years Later, What's Going on With Star Citizen's Development?

[-] jagermo@feddit.org 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I backed it with about 60$ on the Kickstarter and have tried a few alphas. It's nice but unpolished. I don't care about the drama and by this point, if they release a game, I'll be happily surprised - and if not, meh.

[-] fulg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Same for me, though I did splurge a bit ($150 I think) to get the game on a USB key shaped like one of the starships in the game. I will never get that USB key…

If they ever get done I will consider spending more time with it, I don’t really care for early access into an unfinished game.

I should have asked for a refund when we had the chance…

[-] jagermo@feddit.org 5 points 23 hours ago

Oh, wait, it was 30 usd. And i backed Shadowrun Online for 66, so Star Citizen might even be the better bet :)

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It's* nice but unpolished.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

Tits* nice but unpolished.

[-] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I prefer unpolished tits personally

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

Why finish the game when you can sell "ships" for hundreds of dollars each?

[-] Murvel@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

Try thousands. Most expensive ship runs you about 3000$

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 22 hours ago
[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

No, it's horrific. And the reason why is evident in what the previous commenter said.

The most expensive "package" costs $48000. You just don't see it till you already spend like $10k on the game. They have two additional hidden stores that unlock when you spend money on the game already. The commenter above probably didn't see those two stores and only knows about the "reasonable" pricing.

[-] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I get the emails all the time and have no idea what's going on.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 23 hours ago

I try to follow the emails also but its a hot mess. I can never understand any interesting developments. Its like reading AI jibberish.

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