I vote to kill snap

I use Karch, btw.

Burn Snap out of there and I'm in.

Edit: looks like they're not putting much towards snaps, it's mostly Flatpak and systemd-sysext. I'm good with that.

This article is far too hypey. One dude has started this initiative and needs people to work on his concept to get it off the ground. I'm not opposed to a red-hat free immutable system, but this one is so far from maturity this article is selling a first drawing like an almost finished product. Remind me in two years how this went.

The distro is designed to be a bulletproof, highly user-friendly operating system that showcases the best of KDE technology—a system that KDE can confidently recommend to casual users and hardware manufacturers.

So it looks like there will finally be a distribution that Windows, Mac, and ChromeOS users can jump to and just start using without having to learn much and with a much better and more familiar GUI than GNOME.

Everybody's bashing snaps but you can literally package drivers as snaps. If you don't think that's cool af I don't know what is.

I think gnome is working on the same sort of thing, read here.

I'm glad to see both going for an immutable os with flatpaks. It's so much more user friendly for the average person and if you are more technically inclined distrobox makes it a breeze to use it like a regular linux desktop.

I hope both do well

Ooo damn that sounds exactly what I'd like to try.

On the other hand I feel like I'm too old for this shit. My system works fine, I understand everything, and things rarely break and never in an unrecoverable way.

I thought we all agreed that "immutable" is a confusing term and that we should call it "atomic"

edit: I was wrong

Maybe they'll fix the sddm custom theming? It's currently broken on all immutables and doesn't allow custom themes.

Ingl, this sounds like exactly the thing I want. Immutability aside, this is how I use EndeavourOS right now, but more sophisticated.

I'm sold on it.

Snap WTF?

Makes sense that it includes snap given that KDE officially supports their apps packaged as snaps, unlike Gnome.

If I recall correctly, aren’t they going for an Arch base? I assume they’re going to be enabling AppArmor so that the snap sandboxing is mostly working, except for the patches Canonical have failed to upstream so far.

I use Fedora KDE but this one sounds like exactly what I need. I primarily use Linux for software dev and web browsing and Windows for gaming and Office.

Alright I am installing this

Ehh to snaps. That would 100% be the first thing of support to drop if I were them. That said it cool to see more immutable distros experimenting, I wonder how much overlap there is the Kalpa since it is btfs based.

Honestly there definitely still seems some good space for innovation in the immutable space before we "figure it out", so the more smart people experimenting the better!