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Democrats are committed to losing and are turning towards "we gotta be more racist and transphobic".

Seth Moulton also turning on trans people and outright declaring himself transphobic after prior tweets recognising things like Trans Day of Remembrance.

https://x.com/SLCLunk/status/1854597079773200550

"Progressive era has to end" from Elise Jordan. When was there ever one?

https://x.com/LailaAlarian/status/1854151933117788193

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 169 points 1 month ago

Quadrupling down is a bold move, DNC. Let's see if it pays off.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 75 points 1 month ago

Can we lose to Trump a third time? We shall see!

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 month ago

In this timeline, Dems will endorse and successfully help pass a repeal of the 22nd Amendment so they can run against Trump again (because he's so beatable!) and still lose.

[-] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

please don't give them ideas

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

fuck me. lmao.

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[-] HRDS_654@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Spoiler alert, it won't. They were already alienating their base by playing the "both sides" card.

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[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 129 points 1 month ago
[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 88 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Harrison has reportedly chosen not to seek to stay on as DNC chair but his dismissal of Sanders’s statement provoked anger of its own, including from the reporter and columnist Glenn Greenwald. “You and the corporatist and militarist party you lead just got your ass kicked all up and down the US, because Americans see that you only care about enriching yourselves at the corporate lobbying trough,” Greenwald wrote. “If the humiliation you just suffered doesn’t usher in some humility and self-reflection, nothing will.”

-rarely do I read an article and genuinely think "man, that guy got slammed." as the rhetoric typically suggests, but wholly hell did Harrison get slammed.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 month ago

There is no home for progressives in the Democratic Party. At this point the only hope is to go independent like Sanders or join one of the third parties and abandon Democrats entirely. Democrats will never learn.

[-] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Part of the problem is Sanders is one of the rare ones and he is just too damn old.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's why I favor building a labor party and splintering the Democrats away from their shitty party. Their party is full of people who do not belong and would be more at home in a different party, if we had a system that wasn't so unfavorable to third parties.

The only choice is to replace the Democrats as the only other party. Let all the right-wing Democrats join the Republicans and we build a new party with everyone who is left.

Seems... Impossibly hard to do though.

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Which speaks to a much greater problem regarding Sanders: he dropped the chance to build a movement and parallel platform and instead just became a sheepdog for Clinton, Biden, and Harris. He was a useful lightning rod for the popularity of social spending policies and getting debt off the backs of the vast majority of people, but only served as a lightning rod, not turning it into organizing or strength. Just like Obama disassembled his electoral team to use party insiders and lose the 2010 midterms, Sanders gave away his donor list for a song and left his ground game operation hanging until they fucked off and did their own things.

This is why any turn to the Democratic party is a death knell and why we need the exact opposite approach to building the left. The heart of left strength is organizations, of people workinh to educate one another, recruit, and engage in action according to an independent political program that does not wane or falter just because one old guy capitulates to Democrats. There needs to be hundreds of people ready to replace any "important" figurehead or candidate or politician, they must be jettisonable as needed and beholden to members' will, not donors'.

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[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 57 points 1 month ago

"We have the perfect candidate lined up for 2028! We've recruited Dr.Frankenstein and in a world first we've resurrected both Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, stitched them together, and they will be the new face of the Democratic party! Vote for us or you're racist and just want Donald Trump to win!"

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

I have terrible news, Margaronald's tenure in hell made them unelectable among Christians. We're gonna gave to go with plan B and get George Bush and somehow make him more racist

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 month ago

Marx and Lenin continue to be vindicated by the passage of time.

No, the Democrats will not shift left. Their donors would rather they lose to republicans than win on a more progressive platform, and as such will not shift left.

No, we cannot "elect good democrats" to shift the party to the left. The DNC is an organization that has perfected itself as an anti-radical filter. Those who can fundraise well are elevated to the top, those who speak up against injustice are shunned and whipped.

We must actively organize outside the DNC and pressure the system. I keep an intro to Marxism-Leninism list I can link if anyone wants it, let me know.

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[-] dephyre@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No way, Democrats have to pivot more to the right, surely that help, right? …right?

[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

It has helped exactly 0 times in the past, why wouldn't it work this time?

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

Liberals are losing their minds blaming everyone except their dogshit policies and strategies.

You know what, yeah I did cause the Dems to lose. And you know what, I’ll fuckin do it again in the midterms if they don’t move left.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

It helps their donors, who would rather the Dems lose than shift left and win.

[-] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 month ago

Just a reminder people who can't beat Lindsay Graham aren't worth listening to electorally.

[-] slingstone@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

To be fair, in South Carolina, Jesus could run as a Democrat and somehow lose to Lindsey Graham with likely voters.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

This is what I'm saying here, it's time to blow up the Democratic Party. It's already done like 2/3 of the work for us. Blow it up.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Yes, join a socialist organization and help delegitimate these (literal) losers and help put focus on the issues faced by working people!

If you are are still particularly interested in electoralism, then I recommend getting together with like-minded people to create a disciplined voting bloc who loudly announce that they will not vote for Dems unless a certain policy regime is adopted.

The sassy way for me to put this is that there will be no blowing up or realignments so long as you and others vote for these clowns! This is why they try to pander using PR and not policy concessions.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 35 points 1 month ago

Wow. Theyre doubling down? Fucking idiots.

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

At this point they're quadrupuling down. Not our first rodeo, brochacho

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago
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[-] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Bernie isn’t spewing bullshit. Jaime Harrison can fuck off.

[-] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago

They're truly just humiliating themselves over and over again.

[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

"Sanders you fool! The view from atop my ivory tower does not match the view you say the people who are not on the ivory tower have."

[-] Josey_Wales@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

After what we all just witnessed it is beyond me how anyone thinks this isn’t just the system working as intended. Both the Rs and Ds worship capital. That’s the only “both sides” issue that matters to them

Let them eat cake… but remember, the cake is a lie

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

The guy who lost to Lindsay Graham is lecturing others on winning strategies lmao

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[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

This is the second time this has happened. Democrats in the 50s-60s realized they could get votes in the North by not being racist, while Republicans at the same time realized they could get votes in the South by being racist. It just really shows that neither side really cares all that much, it’s mostly a show for political gain.

[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago

Democrats in denial.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The democrats have been taking ethnic and racial minorities, women, and the working class for granted for decades. The slow erosion got faster, and now they got what they deserved. With no viable alternative on the left, they turned to the right. And now the democrats are slowly becoming the party of self-loathing white privilege, and they feel comfortable saying that it's "straight-up BS" that poor people matter. Poors, blacks, browns, and uteruses are just supposed to vote Democrat no matter what, right? That's what my privileged, white, college-educated friends tell me anyway. The dems got kicked in the teeth, and (almost) everyone's going to suffer for it.

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[-] BitSound@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago
[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Fuck Jaime Harrison. What a dipshit.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 18 points 1 month ago

Sounds like something a loser would say.

You know what could prove him wrong? Maybe electing a president? Or winning the house? Or the Senate?

Oh, I mean surely if what he is saying is such bullshit you guys got at least 2/3 of these right?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If the DNC chair had an opinion worth considering then they already would have resigned in the disgrace and shame everyone else feels for them

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Are you sure they are committed to losing and not committed to trying to win by adopting republican tactics?

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

It's the same picture

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