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Arun Gupta
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[-] JayDee@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Really not the right take to say "we lost the Election because of Muslims not voting for Kamala".

  • It was not just Muslims who did not turn out to vote. It was a large list of different demographics. Some demographics were explicitly shown to having turned out more in order to vote for trump. Of any demographic, Muslims and Arabs were the groups who had probably the best reasons not to vote (islamophobia on both sides and our nation actively propagating a genocide of Arabs regardless of the political party in power)
  • While we're focusing on the demographics which did or didn't show, it's still a massive issue that the majority of Americans don't vote, period.
  • focusing on this failure as a point of anger and choosing only to blame a group you have no control over has zero value. You either need to either put your eyes forward to prepare for what comes next, or analyze what you could have done better in order to improve your own actions for next time. If there is ever a time for stoicism, it is now, right before the oncoming crisis.

It is amazing Muslims ever voted for Dems after 9/11 proved the entire democratic party leadership was just as bigoted as Republicans. Hopefully Dems go the way of the whig's and we can get some new parties.

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago

I thought the same when the nut jobs of the Tea Party started tearing the Rs apart....guess what happened?

The thing is the tea party was the same as the Republican party. Both were nationalist ultra capitalists that believed money should buy power. Democrats are the same, really.

Any left wing thought, is entirely different from either of the major parties. There's not really a way to pacify it.

[-] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dems are the party of complicity.

The tea party though gave validation to the conspiracy theorists and unmasked the supremists.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 month ago

And now Gaza is saved!

... oh. Oh no.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

They sure showed her. We’ll find out if they made the right choice soon enough.

[-] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago

Maybe Democrats shouldn't have sent Bill Clinton to talk about how Hamas forced Israel to kill civilians and that's why you need to not care about Dems facilitating genocide, or maybe Richie Torres could have not spent the last weeks of the campaign feuding with Hasan Piker on Twitter over Israel as he was also in Michigan to speak to Arab and Muslim voters.

I guess we already saw if they made the right choice.

[-] pete_link@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

No, there is no "right" choice here, if you mean something that is going to benefit Palestine and Gaza in the short term. The vast majority of those who voted against Harris knew that Trump won't be better, but they could not go along with a candidate actively involved in genocide. Plus, they wanted to let the Democrats know that they would pay a price for their treachery. As it turned out, the pro-Palestine vote against Harris had a very clear effect in Michigan and Wisconsin, but it can't be blamed for her defeat.

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