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It's not the clearest photo, but it clearly has both 2 thumb sticks and 2 track pads.

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[-] pezhore@infosec.pub 73 points 4 weeks ago

It could just be my screen, but that render is hard AF to decipher. Here's a quick n dirty curves manipulation to get better contrast.

[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 15 points 4 weeks ago

Those trackpads better have damn good palm reject because getting to those thumbsticks without brushing the trackpads will be impossible for many people.

[-] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago

The steam deck does

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

The steam deck already does in my experience!

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago

People were saying that about the steam deck before it came out. Maybe some people have had issues, but anecdotally I've literally never heard one complaint about that from someone who actually used the device. The way the joystick is elevated above the pad your palm really shouldn't touch it

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[-] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Thank you - I couldn't see the buttons between the track pads before. Does anyone have an idea what that might be?

[-] flyingSock@feddit.org 15 points 4 weeks ago

if its the same as steamdeck, those are the steam and ... (status) overlay buttons.

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[-] shatteredsword@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago

Anyone got a non-xitter copy of this news?

[-] Vinnyboiler@feddit.uk 63 points 4 weeks ago
[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Thank you kind person.
Looks like they want to bring back the Duke

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago
[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

You're in luck. The Steam Duke is coming our way!

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[-] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

Can someone put some blush marks and eye dots on it?

[-] ivanovsky@lemm.ee 50 points 4 weeks ago

I shouldn't quit my day job

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago

from xitter:

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[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 4 weeks ago

I love it. Absolutely buying one.

[-] Metostopholes@midwest.social 22 points 4 weeks ago

Makes sense that it would match the inputs on the Steam Deck.

[-] PseudoKnight@lemm.ee 21 points 4 weeks ago

Looks good. I just hope they bring back two-stage triggers, as those are missing from the Steam Deck.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 6 points 4 weeks ago

What's a two-stage trigger? Analogue until it's all the way down, then a click (like the GameCube)?

[-] rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 weeks ago

This is correct, linear trigger with a click at the end very useful in desktop mode to have it slow the mouse movement with a trigger pull and then the trigger click for the mouse click.

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[-] DualPad@lemmy.one 19 points 4 weeks ago

I love my Steam Controller. I still use it majority of the time over my playstation, nintendo, and xbox controllers because of the touchpads.

But, I didn't like using the touchpads on the Deck because of the size, shape, and orientation making it a regression for maining the touchpads for the games I play. So not surprised by the leak, since Valve would obviously be better off focusing on making the ergonomics better for joystick users than touchpad users. Still let down because it'll mean for touchpad focused users like me Steam Controller is the only touchpad centric controller on the market with great ergonomics, size with 40mm concave pads, and circular shape for more consistent swipes.

But, it is discontinued and the gyro feels aged compared to the options out there. Will still be using it though from the looks of it for years to come hoping for an eventual dual pad centric controller from some niche group.

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[-] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Give us the circle pads back! Just keep making the steam controller actually, with another back paddle, hall effect stick... Damn squares.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly not having a dpad and second thumbstick is a deal breaker for me on the original steam controller, it means that most games with built in controller support don't work well without switching to a custom or community layout. I think having a "normal" controller layout + trackpads/etc is necessary for the controller to succeed.

Additionally, having this layout means it will match the Steam Deck, which should make all control profiles interchangable.

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[-] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

I was going to say that if you wanted one they're cheap on eBay, but after checking, they're $50+

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago

"...it clearly has both 2 thumb sticks and 2 track pads."

Hell yes, I am very bullish on the two thumb sticks and two touchpads being the controller format that will establish the steam deck/handheld gaming pc as the future of gamepads.

It won't necessarily be a quick, all at once change, but that is because it is a strategic longterm play to reframe what a gamepad is, what its limitations are, and what kind of games can be played with a gamepad.

It will be the kind of thing people look back and point to as the beginning of the whole industry shifting into a new paradigm where playing cool indie games with a gamepad is something people associate with pc gaming first, console gaming second.

They just better have a gyro sensor in there too!

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This seems like a prototype that they can make using the parts from the current deck.

I'm not sure the two square pads make sense on an actual controller, and I feel like those thumbsticks would be just out of comfortable reach.

[-] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 12 points 4 weeks ago

I remember seeing the Steam Deck and thinking "the button placement is really weird, none of this looks comfortable". Then when I took it in my hands for the first time, everything made sense.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It mostly does.

As someone with big hands, I can't use the touchpads comfortably without scooting my grip downwards in a way that makes it precarious and less than comfortable.

I have a similar problem with the Index controllers. My thumb is too long to comfortably rest on any of the controls if I grip the grip where you're supposed to to be able to strap your hand in.

Good economics is supposed to work for everyone, and I've yet to try a valve hardware product that fully pulls it off. Maybe the first controller did, but I haven't tried that one.

[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago

It seems to me like the thumbsticks are in the same ergonomic location as on a Playstation controller, and the trackpads are just in the empty space that would otherwise be there. I’m fully into it even if this is what it looks like when complete

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[-] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

I'm a big Steam Controller trackpad user, and I already nearly never use my Deck trackpads because they're too low down. This new one just looks like a normal controller with extra bulk, and nonsense in the area no controller except the N64 used because it's not where most people grow fingers. I guess it'll at least have paddles, but they're hardly a unique feature these days. I really just wanted the existing one again, but with more paddles, an option for an integrated battery, USB-C instead of micro B, and an official supply of replacement thumbsticks instead of having to bodge in 8bitdo ones that aren't quite the same shape.

[-] ggppjj@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Oddly, I almost exclusively use the trackpads on my deck. I tend to play mainly mouse-driven games.

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[-] camr_on@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Fantastic. I love my steam controller, I'll buy the next one in a heartbeat

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago

I've pretty much been asking for a steam deck without a screen, so if this leak is accurate than I for one am fucking STOKED

[-] Whirling_Cloudburst@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

They need to market it properly. The average gamer didn't know how to use the SC to its fullest potential. I would recommend free software that showcases the controllers abilities that can be used with competitor controllers for comparisons. Software with simple games that teaches the user how to make use of all the functions would be a great boon to their sales. It would also help reviews spread the word.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly, the biggest issue with the original was that it's non-traditional layout meant that games with built in controller support didn't necessarily work well on it. This layout will make it full featured as a "normal controller", while offering additional input options when the game benefits from it.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 4 weeks ago

As an avid and current Steam Controller user, top-down twin stick shooters are still awkward. Having a second stick while still having both pads will be a monumental improvement.

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Iant that what Aperture Desk Job did?

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[-] Serious_Me@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I have big hands, and just looking at this picture makes me think even I'm going to have trouble using the control sticks normally. They're literally the closest thing to the center of the controller.

That being said, it's just my first impression of it, and this looks like it might just be a prototype, so I'll wait and see.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 weeks ago

There were similar concerns when the steam deck was first revealed, and it works fine. So I'm not too worried.

[-] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 7 points 4 weeks ago

I fricking love it, I am really stoked for this.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 4 weeks ago

Down voted for the Twitter sauce. We can do better, people.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 weeks ago

He's a well known steam data miner, it's not just a random Twitter user claiming to have a leak.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 17 points 4 weeks ago

Screenshot it and link to twitter in the post body, so no one has to visit the cancer-site.

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[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 weeks ago

This thing looks almost as big as The Duke.

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