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[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago

The judge in both cases, Lewis Kaplan, has said that the jury’s conclusion was that Carroll had failed to prove that Trump raped her “within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law.”

Kaplan noted that the definition of rape was “far narrower” than how rape is defined in common modern parlance, in some dictionaries, in some federal and state criminal statutes and elsewhere.

The judge said the verdict did not mean that Carroll “failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’ Indeed ... the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 33 points 2 weeks ago

There was no defamation by Stephanopoulos. The problem is the legal definition of "rape" in the state of New York.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 23 points 2 weeks ago

Did Stephanopoulos specifically state he committed the crime of rape as defined in the state of New York, or did he just say he raped her with no added context? Seems like you should be able to use the colloquial definition should be fine to use in a news bulletin.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

Fortunately, the legal definition of “rape” has been recently updated in New York, probably as a direct result of the Carroll case.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 66 points 2 weeks ago

Watching an empire crumble in real time is scary.

[-] Davin@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

It's scary because it's falling on a lot of us. And it won't just be the US that it falls on either.

[-] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

This man is going to be the death of us all.

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

At this point it might be that US splitting might be a net positive for humanity

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

A split is the best thing that could happen to this country right now. For anyone stuck in a red state unable to leave, I'm sorry

[-] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is, all or almost all the red states have negative budget, so when they find themselves in need of money and nobody to leech from, they will start slavery, war, or probably both.

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 46 points 2 weeks ago

Trump must be so proud that his library will be partially paid for by suing people. Very on brand.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Carrol couldn't tell if he raped her with his stubby finger or his tiny penis.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

trump gettin’ paid to rape that woman. Dumbest timeline, dumbest country, dumbest people on earth

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

The Trump Presidential Library will comprise nothing other than piss porn.

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago

Enjoying piss porn comes at no harm to anyone else. It's a quite common kink.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, exclusively.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, Trump's name was clearly printed in the article.

[-] zammy95@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] zammy95@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, I think I was good on that part, thank you for clarifying though haha

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't because they think they'll loose, they're trying to appease the ogre before it demands a virgin worth way more than $15mil.

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, appeasement, there's a proven strategy for dealing with fascists /s

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Appeasement is a famously poor strategy when dealing with bullies, that's 100%.

However, if you're referring to Nevil Chamberlain and the "peace in our time" deal with Hitler regarding Czechoslovakia, that's one of the most misunderstood "teachable moments" in history.

The central concept of "appeasing" Hitler relies on the false premise that England (or France, or Together) were in a position to do anything about German tanks rolling East. Chamberlain had received intelligence shortly before this meeting that they were absolutely not. England and France were helpless to protect Poland after all. And for months existed in an abortive "phony war" after the official deceleration.

Also you have to consider British public opinion about another war on the continent with Germany when most could still remember 1914-1918. So not only was Chamberlain helpless to prevent Hitler's invasion, his political mandate was to avoid war.

Chamberlain's reputation for being weak and bowing to Hitler's demands is undeserved. But worse, is often used as a rational for aggression or as a cudgel to dismiss diplomacy.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

as a cudgel to dismiss diplomacy.

Nazis do not respond to diplomacy

[-] Vikthor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's quite telling how these Chamberlain's apologists always ignore the Czechoslovak materiel and arms industry. Yes, Britain and France were unable to help Poland also because they let Germany get all the Czechoslovak equipment and factories absolutely unscathed.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think this is particularly sad. ABC has been fairly shitty in recent decades, and this is just them publicly admitting they'd rather boot lick than fight for truth.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Did anybody tell him libraries are where they keep books?

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