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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 235 points 1 week ago

trump stole 500 million dollars from the state of ny... rapists spend less than a decade

this is a warning to poor people

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of the case way back in the day with someone who pirated music getting insane fines and how it was juxtaposed with the relatively small settlement an airline had to pay when its negligence actually killed people.

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[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 163 points 1 week ago

I hope this case gets some attention too. This is some ginned up bullshit. We can’t let them stomp us into silence.

I’m not celebrating a murder, this is some fucked up shit in many dimensions and I would prefer a different timeline.

But remember we are not children who need to bow our heads and take our scolding.

For-profit insurance companies are liable for the deaths they cause. Full stop.

How’s that for moral clarity?

[-] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago

She should not be charged in my opinion. It wasn’t a credible threat.

What the shootings has done is shown how many Americans are fed up with the current system.

You’re seeing stories from democrat and republicans.

I don’t condone the violence at all but he may have sparked a medical revolution in our country.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago

Saying (paraphrased) "you're next" is not a threat. It's an observation.

She made no threat.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is some ginned up bullshit.

The "you're next" after referencing a high profile murder is what actually did it.

Like, that's a credible threat. 15 years is fucking insane, and context is going to matter a lot. Did she just get denied cancer treatment for her 2 year old? Or told it's not insurance's fault doctors won't prescribe opioids? Or any of a million things in between.

That's why we have trials, to find out all that stuff. And if it's a jury trial I feel juries would be sympathetic.

The 100k is the real bullshit, but not owning guns doesn't mean much. It's insanely easy to buy a gun without a background check thru private seller loopholes.

But our bond system is insane, because the it causes judges to inflate the amount 10x. If you can afford to put it up, you get it all back later. A bondsman you pay 10%, they put up 90%, and they get the whole 100% back. Your 10% is their profit. If a bondsman thinks that's a good risk, why does the court consistently over estimate the risk?

[-] kryptonidas@lemmings.world 41 points 1 week ago

Bonds only exist so poor people are punished more than rich people.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

credible

able to be believed; convincing

Did anyone really think she was coming after them after that? No. She got heated on the phone and said something she shouldn't have.

It's not nothing. What she did was wrong, and it's reasonable for it to be a crime. We don't want to always have to investigate or deal with constant threats. However, she was neither credible nor specific, which are two major criteria. (Keep that in mind when you're posting here, by the way.) She committed a crime, but not one that should be very serious.

The way they've framed her is obscene.

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[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago

Thanks for the insight on the typical terms of bonds. Good info.

So eyes peeled on this one too I guess. They are making an example of her, I mean the judge plainly said so. We can’t let them get away with these excessive charges.

I didn’t kill anyone and I never will. But I will be damned if I let this moment fade into the next news cycle.

As a society, we are having the conversation about for-profit healthcare NOW!

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 101 points 1 week ago

She would have never been able to be charged before the patriot act. No weapons, no capacity to act on them, vague and unspecific. Its crazy how our freedoms have been eroded and how many folks seem to think thats just fine and dandy.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago

I’ll never understand how people are ok with limiting other people’s freedom based on “what if”.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Indeed, when George unleashed that shit, Patriot Act, I told everyone we are one step closer to forming the SS or NKVD. Once again, we have Mango Mussolini with his merry band of racist thugs.

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[-] garretble@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago

I saw someone else say this, but I hope they start rounding up the incels on Twitter saying “your body, my choice” as credible rape threats if what this woman said is going to be litigated with such fervor.

[-] ramsorge@discuss.online 46 points 1 week ago

Rape doesn’t take money from the rich and is therefore not a crime.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

So we should start raping the rich?

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago
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[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 74 points 1 week ago

Two wrongs don’t make a right. She could have said DDD without “you people are next.”

Having said that, if we’re really judging people, and corporations are people, why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter? 70 people pass every day due to the lack of medical care in America. We have worse outcomes, shorter average life than other civilized countries.

When is a corporation sued for murder & sent to jail? I know it sounds crazy, but that’s the point. These systems aren’t making sense. They lack humanity. This is a bad, morally bankrupt system. Older Americans loves their Medicare: that’s socialism.

I’m so sick of this shit.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 31 points 1 week ago

why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter?

Because they make money when they deny something.

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[-] Etterra@discuss.online 67 points 1 week ago

She's a scapegoat. They arrested her to make a public example of her. Fuck those bastards, set her free.

[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago

When a woman calls the cops because her abusive SO threatened to kill her, they can't do anything about it.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago
[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Betteridge’s Law of Headlines. Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word “No.”

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[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

On the other hand when women complain about threats from stalkers the police do nothing. You might as well delete the word justice from this criminal justice system.

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[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile customer service agents have been hearing much worse than this for decades, actual direct threats not vague comments, and no one ever gave a shit before.

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[-] archonet@lemy.lol 45 points 1 week ago

Of course not, but they're going to make an example out of her to deter the rest of the proles.

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.

Guilty without the crime actually being committed.

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[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago

We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC's headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.

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[-] bigpapasmurf12@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn't America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!

[-] AprilShowers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 week ago
[-] mokus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago

Free speech is for nazis, as far as I can tell

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[-] LiamTheBox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

It's called wrong thinking from the book 1984

[-] WinstonChurchillin@lemmy.cafe 26 points 1 week ago

No, but they are going to throw the book at potential copycats to deincentivise others. First of many, I'm sure.

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Prosecutors throw the book at people, sentences get reduced by dropping things, aclu better get on this and keep her from getting a stupid plea deal, and fight for free speech

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

She was released and all charges dropped. This was a silly farce by the judge and prosecutors from the jump

[-] Birdie@thelemmy.club 24 points 1 week ago

I don't think that's right. She's been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 26 points 1 week ago

So, don't make empty threats?

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[-] r4dhexe@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

Free slave for the state of Florida. I mean, they might let her go in a few months, but slam that 15 years jail stay bill right on her. You really effed up on the "land of the free" over there.

That "when they came for the ..." had already happened. Years ago. Think on that. SL

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

Oh, I missed it it's f****** Florida. Anybody living in that state is taking their own life in their hands. No she does not deserve to have the book thrown at her but her likelihood of that happening is very high.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 21 points 1 week ago

No, the executives, BoD and major investors do.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

The US justice system is f'ed up.

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago

If Boston’s home is later found to have a bunch of disguises, a 3D-printed gun and a manifesto, I will, of course, eat my words and any hats that are available.

Those items will magically appear if needed for them to make a case.

[-] VerbFlow@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

You know what? Everyone deserves freedom of speech, and threatening healthcare CEOs is not, in my opinion, a breach of it. There is a huge difference between threatening vulnerable minorities and threatening invulnerable minorities.

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[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago

Of course she doesn't, but the ruling class needs to make an example of someone - they're not about to let us peasants get away with defying them.

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