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TP-link is reportedly being investigated over national security concerns linked to vulnerabilities in its very popular routers.

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[-] sadTruth@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 3 days ago

When your router's chips are made in China, flashed in China with closed source firmware and the money you pay goes to Chinese companies, then it's backdoored.

When your router's chips are made in China, flashed in China with closed source firmware and the money you pay goes to American companies, it's bulletproof.

Just open your "secure" "American" router and look where they are made and flashed. I bet it's not USA.

[-] remer@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

The US government is just upset because it’s harder to place back doors in non-US hardware. It’s a US national security concern to NOT have US back doors in devices.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That's not all. The US government exists to look out for the interests of wealthy americans.

Every dollar spent on a different nation is a dollar that could've been spent on them, in their eyes.

American business owners know that China is competitive because they can provide better products at cheaper prices. Americans would need to invest in making their products better or lower prices to compete with China. Both result in lower profits for owners.

This is why we will never stop seeing FUD against products that offer us a better deal than those looking to exploit us further. It's more profitable to convince useful idiots to "buy american" than it is to actually sell them products worth buying at competitive prices.

[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Countries like China, Germany, Taiwan, etc. have competitive exports because they have direct and indirect subsidies to their manufacturing sectors at the expense of their household sector.

Some of these subsidies include a weak currency relative to their economy, weakened labour laws, preferential interest rates, capital controls, labour movement restrictions, etc.

China uses all of these. Germany primarily used the Hartz "reforms" which basically decoupled wage growth from productivity and GDP growth.

The reduces the household share of national income and they cannot afford to consume the production of their manufacturing sector and therefore the excess production must be exported.

[-] atthecoast@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago

This comment is suspicious to me. It’s been companies like Apple that have pioneered using Chinese labor to increase their profits. Moving jobs to the USA won’t help make them any richer. It makes economic sense but not strategic sense

I don't think it makes economic sense. Bringing production back here creates jobs, but we have low unemployment so we don't really need more manufacturing jobs here.

It makes sense for national security though.

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[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 days ago

maybe the us should try actually investing in their own infrastructure instead of just relying on rabid xenophobia and sinophobia

[-] avieshek@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Makes sense.

Insert meme: Throws out of the window~

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 28 points 6 days ago

So who tf is left who makes good wireless routers? When I bought my tp-link it was top rated and recommended by everyone.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Yeah, most of those sites end up recommending the same brands over and over, which causes people to buy them and talk about them. I don't want to say, a scam, but it feels... scummy.

They never talk about other brands like Ubiquiti. Which isn't a perfect brand either, but I've never seen it compared. Or even a low end Netgate. It's always TP-Link, Asus, Netgear, Linksys, or D-Link... the same brands that have existed for the last 20 years offering crap. But Ubiquiti, Hawking, Belkin, etc. you basically never see.

I just googled it. Top 3 sites were wired.com, pcmag.com, and reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking (with a top comment pointing to cnet.com and nytime.com). And if you guessed TP-Link was recommended no.1 on all of them, you'd be right. To me, with the absolute garbage reviews on all of them, and the stupidity small sample size, it feels like TP-Link just buys the reviews because customers will read the reviews and buy their garbage. There was a mattress company that did something very similar years ago. The deck is stacked against customers.

And especially scummy, is TP-Link offers some cheaply made, highly marked up garbage that underperforms. They also are notorious for not delivering consistent updates to their routers. Maybe one or two updates, and they certainly don't care if all the features don't work. Just looked up one I bought from them before I wised up, the Archer C5400. 2 updates on a $200 router, that came highly recommended. Checked the v2, and also just 2 updates. I doubt it'll ever see another.

On top of their terrible support and pathetic hardware... they also moved to a cloud SaaS config model. They want you to sign up for an account and use TP-Link Tether. Here's something written up 3 years ago on [reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/tbthjj/psa_newer_tplink_routers_send_all_your_web/}

My general suggestion for most people who want something that just works and is easy to use... the Ubiquiti Dream router isn't a bad option. It's not the best, but if you don't want to really get into how networking works, it's a good option.

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

I'm a techie, but I'm past the point where I want to tinker and mess with my stuff for hours or days to get it up and running. I'm sure the enterprise grade options are better, but I just want some plug and play option that at least allows me access to the more detailed stuff if needed. This looks like a solid recommend.

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[-] jadedwench@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I gave up on TP-Link. I will never purchase any consumer router from them again. Little to no updates, connection issues that were made worse with an update, features REMOVED with an update, settings wouldn't always stick, which results in a factory reset to get it to do anything. WPA3 just doesn't work. It even would "mysteriously" turn it's DHCP server back on, no matter how many times I turned it off, when it was in AP mode. Friend had the same model and most of the same issues.

I have had better luck with the other brands, but I feel like most of them suck or cost way more than they should.

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[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 25 points 6 days ago

law that prohibits attempts at monopolies

Why hasn't this law been used before for so many other things, like all cash burn tech startups such as Uber, etc? Genuine question not being sarcastic...

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago

Damn, maybe we should have some kind of privacy law that could have prevented this behavior from ever being allowed in the first place.

[-] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Why so late ? Of course this should have been zone before. It's a question of sécurité.

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